creating an effects loop for a pedal with a mono splitter

[refuge4]

Hey all. I will apologize in advance if this has alredy been covered somewhere, but I did attempt to search for it. I was wondering if I could create an effects loop for a pedal using 2 mono 1/4" splitters. For example in this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjFth...e_gdata_player he uses the effects loop on the delay to warm up the freeze. I thought this was pretty clever and was curious if it could be replicated by using splitters on a pedal that does not have an effects loop. Thanks in advance for your input.

[bongomania]

The problem is not the splitting, but the recombining afterward. A loop has a mixer at the end of it that remixes the effect signal with the original signal. A plain passive Y cable is usually fine for splitting, but passive mixing sucks dead voles and is not worth bothering with. An active mixer is the way to go; examples include the Boss LS-2 and Exar Ibex.

[refuge4]

It seems like both of those are a little more complex than I would like to deal with. I think I'd rather just buy a pedal w/ an effects loop that I would use for the usefulness/cost involved. Have you or anyone you know used one of these before to accomplish a similar task?

[bongomania]

TBH I hadn't watched the video clip before posting earlier. The point of using the loop on the Memory Man is that the Freeze only affects the delayed signal, not the direct signal (the output of a delay pedal is a mix of direct and effect). So aside from buying a delay with the exact same loop option, here's what you can do with any delay pedal:

bass --> splitter
splitter leg A --> Freeze --> delay --> mixer input A
splitter leg B --> mixer input B

Search on the word "blender" to find out about blender pedals that contain both the splitting and mixing functions.

If a blender is more complex than you want to deal with, then buy the Memory Man.

[caeman]

[sfx] has three products. Two are individual splitter and mixer. The third is a single pedal that is both. I got a quote from Max at [sfx] for what the S&M:Split+Mix would cost without the blend knobs and it ends up being the same price as the individual Mixer pedal.

[refuge4]

Thanks for your advice guys. It's not so much complex as I can only think of a handful of applications I would want it for. With my current set up I would have to change boards since I'm already real estate challenged. I just thought it was pretty clever. Maybe in the future when I have more effects and a bigger board the mixer will be more practical. Thanks for all the input though. I had no idea that that all of that was involved when splitting.

[caeman]

I like to run two delay pedals in parallel on my guitar board. There are 1,001 uses for a running another effect or three in parallel to your dry signal.

[refuge4]

Yea. I get that. I use the effects loop on my amp to blend clean and dirty tone, but that's as far as I had taken it.