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Old 01-29-2013, 07:11 AM
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Cutting Through The Mix

We have seen the question asked, "How do I cut through the mix?" which is then followed by various pedals that boost volume, frequencies, etc, in an attempt to get louder or cleaner. I just watched an interesting vid from JustNick.

http://youtu.be/gcCjFTvUFls

While he is addressing guitar players, I think there is something to be learned for bassists, as well.
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Music is a language. What are you saying?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yRMbH36HRE

Being present in the mix, not cutting through
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcCjFTvUFls
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:22 AM
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Very good video.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:33 AM
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Screw that noise, smiley face EQ and MOAR WATTS CUZ THE WATTS MATTER MOST!!!
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:35 AM
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Screw that noise, smiley face EQ and MOAR WATTS CUZ THE WATTS MATTER MOST!!!


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Music is a language. What are you saying?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yRMbH36HRE

Being present in the mix, not cutting through
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcCjFTvUFls
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:55 AM
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Oh, NOW I get it! My tone should be a spatula, not a knife!
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:02 AM
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"Delicious fried musical whole", mmmm!

When did Sylvester Stallone start doing guitar videos?
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:57 AM
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Oh, NOW I get it! My tone should be a spatula, not a knife!
I prefer my tone to be more of a cricket bat to beat the audience with.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:58 AM
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I prefer my tone to be more of a cricket bat to beat the audience with.
Oh, you have an Ergo EUB?
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Music is a language. What are you saying?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yRMbH36HRE

Being present in the mix, not cutting through
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcCjFTvUFls
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:26 PM
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:46 PM
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Ahhh, someone who gets it. I just hope my guitards do when I explain it to them the way he did - they never understood it in plain English...
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:49 PM
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Have them watch the video. JustNick has a way of explaining things so even a guitar player can understand it.
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Music is a language. What are you saying?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yRMbH36HRE

Being present in the mix, not cutting through
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcCjFTvUFls
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:58 PM
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That's a good idea, I may have to steal that one.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:19 PM
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Thou shalt not cut through the mix. Thou shalt sit in the mix!
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:22 PM
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Thou shalt not cut through the mix. Thou shalt sit in the mix!
Amen, Brother!
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:31 PM
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Disgusting. You should be ashamed. CUT THAT MIX!!!
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:55 PM
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The knife was the best part.
Picture some one pulling it out on a keyboardist in your range
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:13 PM
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I loved this video. Such an excellent explanation of things you know in your head but have a hard time verbalizing.

*keyboardist's left-hand goes too far*
STOP THAT!
Why?
.....it just sounds bad!

now I can say, "you're treading on my frequencies in such a way that the overlap produces a muddled sound to the ear"
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:52 PM
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"You are invading my frequency space. Stop it."
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Music is a language. What are you saying?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yRMbH36HRE

Being present in the mix, not cutting through
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcCjFTvUFls
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:53 PM
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Video Summary

JustNick's three points
  1. Attack Transient
  2. Frequency Content
  3. Masking
    • Frequency Space
    • Time Space
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Music is a language. What are you saying?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yRMbH36HRE

Being present in the mix, not cutting through
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcCjFTvUFls
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