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12-09-2012, 04:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Upstate NY | | | Danelectro Chili Dod- OC-2 clone? Are they Boss OC-2 clones? I seem to remember reading that somewhere, but can't find it now. Can anyone confirm this, or set me straight?
Just curious, really. I know they're cheap and made of plastic. But would they be some cheap fun? | 
12-09-2012, 07:29 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cambridge MA | | | Not sure how cheap the Danos are but I just recently bought 2 mij OC-2s for $40 each. If you look around on CL you should be able to pick up an OC-2 cheap.
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12-10-2012, 05:18 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: France | | | Same layout does not necessarily mean it's a clone, and anyway, no cloning over OC-2 is possible since some parts are unavailable on the market.
There's also the Markbass octaver, exactly the same layout, and quite the same sound, better tracking than vintage OC-2's.
The Danelectro could be the same, find them and compare them, that's the best thing to do IMHO.
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12-10-2012, 05:42 AM
| | Registered User Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | Quote:
Originally Posted by rimbaud no cloning over OC-2 is possible since some parts are unavailable on the market. | Which parts would those be? | 
12-10-2012, 06:11 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: France | | | The original VCA (Voltage Controlled Amp) and amp op, to name a few. | 
12-10-2012, 07:20 AM
| | Registered User Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | | VCA? Do you mean the JFETs? They are nothing special as they're only used as switches. The same is true for the opamps - nothing special and not adding anything to the sound. | 
12-10-2012, 07:51 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: France | | So you can get the same japan OC-2 sounds with any other pedal on the market I guess ? glad to hear that if it's that what you mean, cos' I was really fed up with that vintage japan OC-2 "hype"
Really glad to hear that from you, specially from the Iron Ether boss that I respect (your Xerograph and Oxide kills all the way  , specially with a copilot cubic octaver, when I heard those soundclips, I was blown away, I will get those one day be sure of that !!)
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12-10-2012, 08:06 AM
|  | Registered User Beta Tester: Source Audio | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicago, IL | | Quote:
Originally Posted by rimbaud So you can get the same japan OC-2 sounds with any other pedal on the market I guess ? glad to hear that if it's that what you mean, cos' I was really fed up with that vintage japan OC-2 "hype"
Really glad to hear that from you, specially from the Iron Ether boss that I respect (your Xerograph and Oxide kills all the way  , specially with a copilot cubic octaver, when I heard those soundclips, I was blown away, I will get those one day be sure of that !!) | Markbass MB Octaver is essentially an OC2 clone with a little more headroom. I run it at 12 volts and it sounds very similar. | 
12-10-2012, 08:25 AM
| | Registered User Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | Quote:
Originally Posted by rimbaud So you can get the same japan OC-2 sounds with any other pedal on the market I guess ? glad to hear that if it's that what you mean, cos' I was really fed up with that vintage japan OC-2 "hype"
Really glad to hear that from you, specially from the Iron Ether boss that I respect (your Xerograph and Oxide kills all the way  , specially with a copilot cubic octaver, when I heard those soundclips, I was blown away, I will get those one day be sure of that !!) | I try to avoid getting into arguments over sound, since we all know how tricky that can be. What I will say is that Boss never designed things with mojo parts. They designed with parts they could get in the millions. When they got a lot of FETs, you can be sure they were going to use the same one in every pedal they could. The FETs in the OC2 are used to switch an opamp between inverting and non-inverting amplification; as a result the audio signal never actually goes through the FET.
I certainly wouldn't say all octave pedals sound the same. | 
12-10-2012, 08:28 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Gainesville,FL | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Taylor Livingston I try to avoid getting into arguments over sound, since we all know how tricky that can be. What I will say is that Boss never designed things with mojo parts. They designed with parts they could get in the millions. When they got a lot of FETs, you can be sure they were going to use the same one in every pedal they could. The FETs in the OC2 are used to switch an opamp between inverting and non-inverting amplification; as a result the audio signal never actually goes through the FET.
I certainly wouldn't say all octave pedals sound the same. | SOoooo, what is YOURS going to sound like  | 
12-10-2012, 08:39 AM
| | Registered User Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | I thought I had so carefully sidestepped saying anything that would imply...  | 
12-10-2012, 09:06 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: France | | Yeah smart reply Taylor  I "dramatically" emphasized the facts  off course all pedals are not equal, that's a chimere.... but there are indeed similar products and you could easily built a closed match to the japanese OC-2, as many "electrotechnicians" guys in the world
So, I'll stand on my opinion: vintage japanese OC-2 is NOT the Holly Grail, think of it.... | 
12-10-2012, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Smallequestrian Markbass MB Octaver is essentially an OC2 clone with a little more headroom. I run it at 12 volts and it sounds very similar. | + 10 000: always trust your ears, not the "hypes".... | 
12-10-2012, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jmceachern36 Not sure how cheap the Danos are but I just recently bought 2 mij OC-2s for $40 each. If you look around on CL you should be able to pick up an OC-2 cheap. | You found MIJ OC-2s for $40 each? Yeah, for that price I'd get the real thing too. I've never seen them that cheap, which is why I was looking in to the Dano.
So if the Dano's not an exact clone, anyone know how close the sound gets? | 
12-10-2012, 04:44 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by arginator Are they Boss OC-2 clones? I seem to remember reading that somewhere, but can't find it now. Can anyone confirm this, or set me straight?
Just curious, really. I know they're cheap and made of plastic. But would they be some cheap fun? |
Not quite.
They are not bad on guitar, fun octavers. But they really don't work very well on bass. The sound is not too close to an OC2 either. I bought one because it was cheap, so why not? But it really did not do it for me. I still have the OC2.
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