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Old 10-06-2010, 03:26 PM
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So my Darkglass B3K overdrive showed up on Monday and I've had some time to play around with it a bit and thought I'd post some general thoughts and early impressions.

First, here's a picture of mine (labeled #4 inside the box)


The B3K arrived in about the smallest box possible protected fully by bubble wrap but with no actual box for the pedal or documentation/manual which was a bit surprising. It was actually smaller than I expected, being about MXR pedal sized.

Initially the screw on the back of the Blend knob was sticking out enough that it was catching on the Level knob when both were near noon. I was afraid tightening it would make it too hard to rotate but it didn't. A couple turns with my tiny screwdriver and it was good to go.

A quick rundown of the controls:
The Blend control mixes clean and overdriven tones. Blend controls are always hit or miss with me as I've had some pedals where the blend just seemed to be adding a harsh buzziness to my clean signal as it was turned up but this one works well without it sounding like two completely separate signals

The Drive control affects the amount of gain or saturation. However, the pedal absolutely imparts a characteristic tone regardless of the amount of drive. Even with this knob set to zero engaging the pedal will give a more aggressive tone. More on this in a bit.

The Level control simply adjusts overall output. I leave it set just above unity gain.

The Attack Switch basically gives a brighter, more aggressive sound when engaged.

The Grunt Switch is a 3 position switch between "Fat", "Thin" and "Raw". The Fat setting has thicker bass and a warmer response and the Raw setting is tigher and more aggressive. I don't use the "Thin" setting much because it (1) cuts some low end, (2) does indeed produce a thinner sound and (3) drops the volume relative to the other two switch positions. I HAVE used that setting (with the Level boosted quite a bit to make up for the volume drop) for a Justin Chancellor-like tone but that's not something I personally want.

The overall tone of this pedal is VERY aggressive sounding. And while I haven't tried it in a live mix, I was playing along to an old unfinished band track (drums and guitar) and at least through headphones it actually cuts through the mix better than clean bass. I attribute this to what I hear as a boost in the high, high mids (adding "growl" and a bit of "crunch) while not scooping my signal like many other pedals do.

It ranges from medium OD to distortion levels, but it isn't a pedal I'd recommend for people looking for "a touch of grit". It always has a significant amount of growl and clank. It's a tube amp like sound, but more on the Ampeg or Marshall side than the grunty, fat or round sound.

It adds some noise to the signal, especially at higher gain levels, but is quieter than average relative to pedals with equivalent amounts of dirt on tap.

I'll try to record some clips on Sunday night (my only free time this week) but the overall impression I have is that this is the aggressive OD I've been looking for forever. It isn't mushy or buzzy the way most ODs on bass have been for me, it is touch sensitive (not as much as say, the SFT but still very responsive to playing dynamics) and the tone it puts out is aggressive but natural sounding. For a rock gig I could absolutely see it being an always on pedal.

My Iron Ether Bubble Chamber isn't finished yet but I'll be very interested to see how it does adding some harmonic content before a filter, something I like to use an OD for. I found a few ODs that really pushed the Moog LPF in a pleasing way but I have very high hopes for the B3K and the BC pairing.

I'll post clips when I can record them, but I'm happy to answer any questions people might have.
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:38 PM
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Thanks for your initial impressions (looking forward to clips)... how would you compare this to say, the Xotic Bass BB? I use a Bass BB for non-mushy, not dark, clean distortion in my rock tone.
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Old 10-06-2010, 05:11 PM
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Thanks for your initial impressions (looking forward to clips)... how would you compare this to say, the Xotic Bass BB? I use a Bass BB for non-mushy, not dark, clean distortion in my rock tone.
It's a bit of a different feel than the Xotic (or other TS clones for bass like the Bass Drive or Hematoma). I'd say that in general those pedals are a bit "buzzier" sounding. I don't mean that in a bad way, but it's hard to put tone into words. The BB has this warm, smooth, slightly buzzy tone that I liked, especially with the treble control turned down a bit.

B3K is "punchier" and more clean/modern sounding to me if that makes sense. I think clips are the easiest way to see what it sounds like and compare to existing pedals. If it helps, the YouTube video for the B3K gives a very good representation of this pedal's tone.

One thing I forgot to note is that while the Attack and Grunt switches interact with the Drive knob to give some control over tone, the Darkglass has no dedicated controls to adjust the tone. No bass/treble/mids or tone knob. The bigger brother B7K(?) has a full EQ section along with a DI out but this one doesn't. I dig the sounds so that doesn't bother me but I could see how it might bother others.
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Old 10-06-2010, 05:20 PM
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Haven't used any of it, but seeing the innards of these pedals that the builder has posted, the build quality looks top notch. Nice job, Darkglass!
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:29 AM
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Thanks Taylor for your words!
Your pedals look amazing btw, good job!
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:36 AM
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Had a chance to use the B3K in a band mix this weekend and it absolutely kills. I love the thing.

Hopefully sound clips coming soon but I don't know when I'll get a chance.
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A friend of mine just got the B7K and their compressor. The B7K sounds amazing!!! And I'm not a pedal guy.
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Old 01-09-2011, 10:24 PM
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The B3K is far and away my favorite overdrive and I've tried a ton. Great pedal.
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The B3K is far and away my favorite overdrive and I've tried a ton. Great pedal.
I'm waiting on one to be made for me. I think the weather must have been delaying things, because its about 1.5 months overdue.

I got the Harmonic Booster pedal in the meantime and I really like it. Excellent pedal.
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curious.. does the EQ effect BOTH signals? or does it only effect the "wet" signal?

i like to bi-amp and distort a chunk of the mids while keeping the lows cleaner. possible?
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:55 PM
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Hey Thanks everyone for commenting, and Jared for opening the thread!
We are working very hard to keep up with the demand, is been challenging, but very gratifying. We have plans of growth that should avoid any delays in the future, plus we are optimizing many of the processes!
2011 will be a super exciting year!
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Hey Jared, any recordings yet with the B3K? I still have G.A.S. for this.
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:31 AM
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Hey Jared, any recordings yet with the B3K? I still have G.A.S. for this.
I'll see if I can make some clips in the next couple days.
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Awesome! thanks for the quick response! Does anyone know how this compares to the agro?
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Yeah I have the same dilema, how does this pedal compare to the Aguilar Agro?
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Yeah I have the same dilema, how does this pedal compare to the Aguilar Agro?
In my experience B3K has a more articulate and 'playable' sound, cuts through the mix much better (to be honest the Agro gets lost), and is quieter too (Agro is a bit hissy).
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Probably get more answers on this thread.
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Yeah I have the same dilema, how does this pedal compare to the Aguilar Agro?
No comparison. Agro is darker and more tubescreamerish
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I'm starting to want one of these b3ks.
Now... will there ever be a 1590A version?
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Now... will there ever be a 1590A version?
Or the cheap made in China version... so I can play summer street parties without getting my booteek one rained on!
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