Deep/Fat Attacking Sound

[plastik-bass[?]]

I'm in the market for a pedal and I really want something that will make my bass have a real deep sound but also cut through like Justin Chancellor from Tool or Kristoffer (some sweedish lastname) from from Pain of Salvation.

My band has recently started to play music like these band real Prog Metal/Experimental stuff and i need something to give me that extra BOOM but not get lost in the mix too

I was thinking some type of overdrive but im not sure

im looking to spend about $150...no more please if its possible

Thanks in Advance

oh and sound clips are always nice XD

[Oreomeister365]

First off, what bass, amp, etc do you have?

Then we'll talk.

But right off the bat I'd suggest one of these: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...-DI?sku=480206

it can essentially blend your clean tone with a distorted version of the same tone (among other nice features), which is exactly what Justin Chancellor does, not using that pedal per se, but he has a clean amp and a dirty distorted amp running at all times and blends them to achieve a imo much more interesting/full/powerful sound than just straight bass. But that box has a whole lot of tone fattening features, what I describe deals mainly with the blend knob. I don't have one myself but I've heard endless good things about it. Maybe look on the bay for a used one.

Geddy lee does similarly, and its really obvious live (not in a bad way...)

I'd also suggest boosting the low mids.

[bongomania]

+1
Also, the very best way to not get lost in the mix is to have a large-enough amp with the mids boosted a bit. IMO the majority of posts we get here saying they need more boom to cut through are either scooping their mids or using an inadequate amp.

[plastik-bass[?]]

Originally Posted by Oreomeister365

First off, what bass, amp, etc do you have?

Then we'll talk.

my bad

I have a MIM Fender Jazz and a Peavey TKO 80 as my practice/small gig amp and a Univox U1061 B Group head and Earth 412 cabinet as my big gig stuff..but the speakers on the Earth 412 cabinet are torn so i dont use it much anymore so many the TKO 80 for now

[stedtale]

hmmmm...Nordy Big Splits and a 3 band Audere?

Sorry, not much into pedals.

Or, just a nice EQ pedal.

[plastik-bass[?]]

Originally Posted by bongomania

+1
Also, the very best way to not get lost in the mix is to have a large-enough amp with the mids boosted a bit. IMO the majority of posts we get here saying they need more boom to cut through are either scooping their mids or using an inadequate amp.

its not that i just wanna cut through im looking for that real deep Tool tone that you here in some songs, I know im not gonna get just like it unless i get gear just like justin etc etc and i should find my own style blah blah blah... mainly im looking for some type of effect that well make the bass have that real deep tone that you just cant ignore when you here it.

Like i said my band is playing alot of Prog Metal/Experimental now and i need something to go with that example being some type of overdrive maybe?

[OhThePeacock]

I would say an EQ pedal, you could opt for a Boss 7 band or go with a used BDDI which has EQ and overdrive.

[JanusZarate]

Sounds like the problem is with your rig, IMO.

The Univox you have, from what I read, is pretty old (1970s), all-tube, and about 100W. As far as I can tell, you're using something with a vintage voice that won't do for modern tones like the ones you're looking for. You may be asking for too much with your current rig.

The Peavey isn't going to help you cut through... not because of how it sounds, but more importantly, because it's only 80W RMS - it won't get loud enough. A 15" combo speaker isn't going to give you the clarity you're seeking at high volumes with only 80W behind it. A pedal isn't going to fix that. Unless you plan on mic'ing your combo and adding PA support, a pedal won't help at this point.

An overdrive pedal can make it sound "bigger", but without a good amp and cabinets, you're going to be pretty shy on headroom and volume, and with that, your clarity and punch go out the window.

[bongomania]

Originally Posted by plastik-bass[?]

mainly im looking for some type of effect that well make the bass have that real deep tone that you just cant ignore when you here it.

Yeah, that's the sound of a good bass into a good amp or a good recording channel. Also, a lot of the big, big Tool-type bass sounds involved multiple amps or multiple recording channels.

If you just want a pedal to play around with though, try an Aphex Exciter.

[plastik-bass[?]]

well im gonna have to deal with what i have for now cause i dont have any money to go out and spend on anything unless i sell my Tube Head and Cab cause im poor...i mean POOR

[scourge]

I'm really happy with my aphex bass xciter. They run around $100 or so. Even cheaper on the 'bay.

You can dial in a fat bottom tone or a cutting treble tone and all spaces in between.

[johans]

for a single unit ... Sansamp BDDI or Tonebone Bassbone would probably be fine enough =) they served similar purpose too..

besides that, do you love your current tone and eq already? if you do ... try Fulltone Fat-Boost 2 really cool boost and lo/hi switches ..

=)

[tdogg]

try a BBE sonic maximizer