Devi Dark Boost vs EHX Mole vs Wren and Cuff Phat Phuk B

someparts · #1 03-06-2011, 10:42 AM

So I'm running a split signal into a clean amp/dirty amp setup. Fuzz, wah etc. going to the dirty amp and the "clean" amp with only an SFT set for a slight gritty boost and bottom.

I want to take the SFT and use it on the dirty side as it has a great high gain overdrive also.

Which pedal out the three in the thread title are going to be best? Three really different price levels on these boxes...

Kinda leaning towards the Dark Boost because it seems like it would do what the SFT is set for now. Mole just seems cheap and maybe too boomy? Phat Phuk B maybe more of a boost/enhancer?

Clean channel is going into an Acoustic 371 stack so no real airy hi-fi-ish presence bump is required, it won't translate through that rig anyway.

What ya'll think?

The Lurker · #2 03-06-2011, 03:06 PM

The Mole is a different animal entirely-- has a built-in lowpass filter so it's only boosting the low end.

fitz420 · #3 03-06-2011, 03:18 PM

i havent tried all 3 but i can say from experience that the phuk is pretty dark. if thats ur thing you`ll love it. its one of the best built pedals ive ever owned and matts customer service is as good as it gets.

lowmid · #4 03-06-2011, 03:39 PM

fulltone fat boost?? does the dirty boost thing pretty well I've heard.

CopperheadLXXIX · #5 03-06-2011, 04:28 PM

Another one maybe to consider is the SFX Red Dragon-It'll get some light grind if you crank the gain and it'll also get pretty dark if you roll back to tone knob.

Kromwarp · #6 03-06-2011, 05:10 PM

Ibanez Bottom Booster?

Volume4 · #7 03-06-2011, 05:45 PM

3 very different pedals

I never found my Phat Phuk B to be dark although I guess when you hit the strings hard or hit it with a hard enough signal to cause it to get a little fuzzy....then yes, it is a dark kind of fuzz, which is what I would want.

I can't say enough good things about the Phat Phuk B and the company that makes it.

I've never tried one myself but I think there is a misconception that The Mole is a pedal meant for bass guitar....I don't think it is....it would seem more useful for guitar in theory and I haven't found one review or sound clip of it with bass that says its any good for it.

someparts · #8 03-06-2011, 09:17 PM

Thanks guys. The Mole is far in the back of the pack, seems like a low pass with boost as someone noted. Wren and Cuff has an exemplary reputation but it's 70 bucks more than the Dark Boost, so..... Doesn't help that the Dark Boost has almost NO demos with bass showing a clean tone.

I did a search on here and found some phase issues with the SFT when used with other pedals. I'm not noticing any phase problems now but wanted to move the SFT in line with a Bluebeard and Devi Ruiner for 3 levels of dirt on tap, so maybe not?

Board right now is signal to Aguilar DB900 tube direct box, then into homemade hardwired 1 to 2 splitter box, SFT to clean amp, dirty side goes into Bass Crybaby, Bluebeard and Ruiner. All old Acoustic SS amps... Is moving the SFT a bad idea?

Flymo Wang · #9 03-07-2011, 05:11 AM

i have a phat B and can only echo previous comments - great boost pedal, but i didn't find it dark at all.

i had a dark boost for a few weeks, just didn't work for me, far too 'dark' and muffled for my tastes.

RE the $70 point, if you look inside a devi and a wren and cuff pedal and compare, it's not surprising the W&C is more expensive, IMO.

cubanbass · #10 03-07-2011, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fitz420

i havent tried all 3 but i can say from experience that the phuk is pretty dark. if thats ur thing you`ll love it. its one of the best built pedals ive ever owned and matts customer service is as good as it gets.

+1 and more to the phuk and Matt. Great pedal and builder, excellent customer service, beautiful paint work, packaging, and most important construction (very neat work and choice bits).

The Phat Phuck is not a transparent boost but it adds a nice warmth and slight breakup at higher settings plus it really works well for me at the beginning of my signal chain (works well/pushes my other pedals in a very musical way...not harsh).
I would not call it dark though, unless your signal is already there... Now the Fuzzrocious Dark Driving would be a super bass boosted low gain pedal if Fuzzrocious has not stopped production of it I would look into that.

rratajski · #11 03-07-2011, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cubanbass

Now the Fuzzrocious Dark Driving would be a super bass boosted low gain pedal if Fuzzrocious has not stopped production of it I would look into that.

Definitely still in production!

TaySte_2000 · #12 03-07-2011, 07:00 AM

What about 2 SFT's

Just think of the awesome sounds of running them both together

cubanbass · #13 03-07-2011, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rratajski

Definitely still in production!

Thanks Ryan, DD is good!

fitz420 · #14 03-07-2011, 07:36 AM

yeah, i 2nd the DD. one of the best OD pedals i've had the pleasure of owning. it has a very unique voice and isn't quite as dark as the name suggests. as with the phuk, built by a great dude. the one external knob and 2 internals really cut down my pre-soundcheck knob twiddling.

maybe i was wrong in saying the phuk was dark. i guess dark wasn't the right word.....i just can't really find the right one.

i did here some samples of the darkboost although i don't remember where. i also remember determining that based on those samples it wasn't really my bag.

i also used a V1 fat-boost many years ago when they first came out. i do remember liking it alot, although there are many more choices now than there were then.

what about the dredgetone angler? look it up, its a really good one.

someparts · #15 03-07-2011, 07:51 PM

Will take a look at all this info, thanks. Probably more confused than when I posted, ahaha...

Verminaard · #16 03-07-2011, 08:26 PM

The Fuzzrocious Darkness Driving is what you want.

NOISE! · #17 03-07-2011, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by someparts

So I'm running a split signal into a clean amp/dirty amp setup. Fuzz, wah etc. going to the dirty amp and the "clean" amp with only an SFT set for a slight gritty boost and bottom.

I want to take the SFT and use it on the dirty side as it has a great high gain overdrive also.

Which pedal out the three in the thread title are going to be best? Three really different price levels on these boxes...

Kinda leaning towards the Dark Boost because it seems like it would do what the SFT is set for now. Mole just seems cheap and maybe too boomy? Phat Phuk B maybe more of a boost/enhancer?

Clean channel is going into an Acoustic 371 stack so no real airy hi-fi-ish presence bump is required, it won't translate through that rig anyway.

What ya'll think?

Mole is a LB-1 with two big ass caps to cut all highs... DB a dirty boost with some high cut but not as much a s the mole...

I have yet to try a reissue mole though but the vintage mole/hogs foot are kickass

Smurf-o-Deth · #18 03-08-2011, 07:36 AM

I found the Mole to be worthless. Should be called The Mud.

Volume4 · #19 03-08-2011, 09:27 PM

Phat Phuk B and Dark Driving are like Peanut Butter and Jelly to me.

Also love them both on their own, but really love the Phatty before the DD, both on together does wonderful things for me.

I've been playing a long time and owned a lot of pedals....but these 2 pedals just stick out to me as the 2 best I've ever owned and I've never been happier.

cubanbass · #20 03-08-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Volume4

Phat Phuk B and Dark Driving are like Peanut Butter and Jelly to me.

Also love them both on their own, but really love the Phatty before the DD, both on together does wonderful things for me.

I've been playing a long time and owned a lot of pedals....but these 2 pedals just stick out to me as the 2 best I've ever owned and I've never been happier.

Yeah I feel the same.