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11-15-2007, 05:16 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia | | | didn't want to post this because im embarrassed. but need to know....
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did i kill my POG?
ordered it from america. bought a us to au prong converter.
plugged it in. stuck in a lead and just some headphones into the output. some pedals only work when you have everything plugged in.
turned power on.
CRACK noise.
smoke rises out of the power supply, at power point. turn it off.
freak out.
realized i did my math logic wrong, thinking that the 120v pedal could take the 240v australian power. dont remeber what my logic was, but i was excited to get the pedal plugged in and playing. i think i just had it in my head the other way around, as if the pedal would be under powered, not over powered.
anyway, power supply is definately cooked. does not work. tested it with a thingy (you know, a thingy). definately dead.
not sure if it cooked my POG though.
HOWEVER...... my headphones there were plugged in dont work anymore, i think they got cooked too. so if the power supply is cooked, and the headphones are cooked, surely my pog is cooked?
didnt even have a chance to hear the thing. a wonderful way to spend 400 bucks.
so............. if i am to test that this pog is cooked or not, im going to have to order another electroharmonix power supply ($25 shipped) and get a power stepdown converter ($100 local) to make aussie 240V 120v.
even if my pog lives, it means i'll need to carry the power stepdown converter everywhere the pedal goes... and its big and a pain in the rear.
BUT THE QUESTION IS given my account, does it sound like a fried my POG?
sympathy welcome.
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11-15-2007, 05:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia | | | the part of me that hopes beyond reason | 
11-15-2007, 05:29 AM
|  | Working on successful. Got the first syllable... | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Huddinge, Sweden | | | It's in all likelyhood fried. If it isn't, I can't imagine why any wall-wart with correct output shouldn't work. You shouldn't need EHX original for that.
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11-15-2007, 05:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: sheffield, england | | | i did this to one of my pedals ;/
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11-15-2007, 05:41 AM
| | Not Actually Knighted... Yet! | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio | | sounds to me like you threw $400 out the window just now
and I doubt the warranty covers idiocy... 
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11-15-2007, 06:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Edward V sounds to me like you threw $400 out the window just now
and I doubt the warranty covers idiocy...  | yeah was a pretty dumb thing to do but i HONESTLY didn't know better.
now i do. i have learnt a pretty big lesson from this... wish i learnt it on a 100$ pedal though... | 
11-15-2007, 06:08 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia | | | im also spewin about the head phones. the inoccent bystanders. they were only 2 months old and cost me $130 | 
11-15-2007, 06:41 AM
|  | Seer of all that is done there Accessories Sales Associate, Guitar Center Rancho Cucamonga, CA | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Upland, California | | Sounds to me like you completely blew something in the pedal. Open the box up and check to see if there's anything in there that looks unusually charred or crispy... or if you smell the faint aroma of burned plastic/metal. Don't think there's much you can do about it except make sure to get a power converter for all those wacky pedals that aren't built for 240V so this catastrophe doesn't happen again. Totally sorry to hear about the death of an awesome EHX pedal!  | 
11-15-2007, 07:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Leeming, Western Australia | | | I highly suggest trying it it out with a correct power supply before you count it out.
For now i shall tell you an embarrassing tale of my adventures with a Digitech Whammy.
I bought a whammy from the US for probablly the same reason you bought a POG from there, it was insanely cheaper by comparison. Mine also came with an American power supply and i also just used a prong converter without considering the need for step down stransformation. Needless to say, the puff of smoke insued and my power supply was fried.
SO i ordered a new supply from america AND bought a step down transformer from Jaycar electronics. AND AFTER A FEW WEEKS USE IT STILL FRIED DESPITE USING A STEP DOWN TRANSFORMER!!!!!!!!!!
So i just bought a used power supply for on the the digitech multi effects pedals (an Aussie one) and it now works perfectly.
The point is - through all the destruction, the pedal was never fried, just all the other stuff. So i suggest buying a standard power supply that meets the pedals demands (voltage and amperage wise) and don't bother with a step down transformer. | 
11-15-2007, 08:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by icarussmicarus I highly suggest trying it it out with a correct power supply before you count it out.
For now i shall tell you an embarrassing tale of my adventures with a Digitech Whammy.
I bought a whammy from the US for probablly the same reason you bought a POG from there, it was insanely cheaper by comparison. Mine also came with an American power supply and i also just used a prong converter without considering the need for step down stransformation. Needless to say, the puff of smoke insued and my power supply was fried.
SO i ordered a new supply from america AND bought a step down transformer from Jaycar electronics. AND AFTER A FEW WEEKS USE IT STILL FRIED DESPITE USING A STEP DOWN TRANSFORMER!!!!!!!!!!
So i just bought a used power supply for on the the digitech multi effects pedals (an Aussie one) and it now works perfectly.
The point is - through all the destruction, the pedal was never fried, just all the other stuff. So i suggest buying a standard power supply that meets the pedals demands (voltage and amperage wise) and don't bother with a step down transformer. | thats very interesting... i'll look into it. if it works, i'll have to buy you a beer. (i only live a few suburbs away from you, murdoch).
may i ask, where did you get the 2nd power supply from? | 
11-15-2007, 08:06 AM
| | Rocks Around The Glocks | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Greece, Europe | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dan.ablett so............. if i am to test that this pog is cooked or not, im going to have to order another electroharmonix power supply ($25 shipped) and get a power stepdown converter ($100 local) to make aussie 240V 120v. | Why not go straight for a 240V electroharmonix power supply from a local dealer? Or, as icarus suggested, a standard power supply with the same specs (mA, voltage and polarity).
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11-15-2007, 08:11 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Leeming, Western Australia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dan.ablett thats very interesting... i'll look into it. if it works, i'll have to buy you a beer. (i only live a few suburbs away from you, murdoch).
may i ask, where did you get the 2nd power supply from? | I used ebay to find mine, but pretty much any electronics place should have a power supply matching your specs. I don't know the specs for the POG off by heart, but i imagine its not as insanely annoying as the digitech whammy :P.
If you don't wanna search the net for sites, Jaycar auto on beaufort street is pretty much the best place for electronic stuff. When tandy/dick smith don't have something - thats where they direct you to go. Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonlord Why not go straight for a 240V electroharmonix power supply from a local dealer? Or, as icarus suggested, a standard power supply with the same specs (mA, voltage and polarity). | I don't know about electro harmonix, but with my story - Digitech refused to send me a power supply since i bought outside the country. It's an annoying defence mechanism against us buying cheaper outside the country. But of course that was digitech, perhaps electro harmonix are less annoying? | 
11-15-2007, 08:14 AM
| | Rocks Around The Glocks | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Greece, Europe | | Quote:
Originally Posted by icarussmicarus I don't know about electro harmonix, but with my story - Digitech refused to send me a power supply since i bought outside the country. It's an annoying defence mechanism against us buying cheaper outside the country. But of course that was digitech, perhaps electro harmonix are less annoying? | Well, electro harmonix adaptors are supposed to be sold seperately as well, so it's not their business why you want an adaptor without a pedal. Anyway, couldn't you tell them you had bought the pedal locally a couple of years ago and lost the adaptor?
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11-15-2007, 08:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Leeming, Western Australia | | Ok so i just did a quick google for the POG. It's rated at 18Volt DC and 500mA. A quick search on Jaycar's site... http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView...Max=&SUBCATID=
This one is 18VDC 1.2mA, which means its perfect. Correct voltage and more than enough amperage (it will merely draw 500mA from the 1.2mA available). Plus 7 plugs, which means you could potentially use it later for something else.
So if i were you, i'd grab the yellow pages and ring the Jaycar in perth and ask them if they have this particular item in stock. Then you can drive down and test your pedal to see if it is actually fried or not without having to buy a power supply.
GOOD LUCK, i really hope your pedal is fine! | 
11-15-2007, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragonlord Well, electro harmonix adaptors are supposed to be sold seperately as well... | Yes they are. Im looking at a UK config (240V) original EHX wall wart right now... It powers my English Muff'n...
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11-15-2007, 08:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ | | | I am going to say that your POG is alive. I hope it is. Come on people lets put out the positive vibs!!!
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11-15-2007, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMutt Sounds to me like you completely blew something in the pedal. Open the box up and check to see if there's anything in there that looks unusually charred or crispy... or if you smell the faint aroma of burned plastic/metal.  | +1
This is an easy box to open and look around in, there is quite a bit of room. Explore for black spots, char marks, popped capacitors or other obvious damage. | 
11-15-2007, 08:38 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Leeming, Western Australia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonlord Well, electro harmonix adaptors are supposed to be sold seperately as well, so it's not their business why you want an adaptor without a pedal. Anyway, couldn't you tell them you had bought the pedal locally a couple of years ago and lost the adaptor? | What you say is most likely 100% correct. BUT we are talking about Perth, Western Australia, the most isolated capital city in the world. There isn't a single store that stocks the POG or a similar 18volt pedal, apart from maybe the odd 24volt Qtron it's all 9 volts. That means there defiantly won't be a back up in stock - which means either you can't get it or you wait weeks for it to be shipped. It's easier to just go generic, even when buying 9 volt adaptors the stores here often only have keyboard power supplies to sell you. | 
11-15-2007, 08:50 AM
| | Rocks Around The Glocks | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Greece, Europe | | | I know EXACTLY what you mean, a few threads down I'm in the same situation trying to power a HOG in Greece.
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11-15-2007, 09:58 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, California, USA | | | If it does happen to be toast, don't fret just yet. Try out an equivalent adapter like the others have suggested (instead of the step-down transformer approach), and if that doesn't work, e-mail EHX!
I toasted my Bass Micro Synthesizer a while back, and they were extremely reasonable with the repair costs. If it's under warranty, then e-mail them to see what they can do!
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