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Old 11-29-2009, 02:38 PM
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The difference in these tuners?

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Hey guys, Im getting a 5er and that means I need a new tuner that can handle this.

What is the difference between these two tuners, is it ONLY the output selection that makes it cost $5 more?

http://www.samash.com/p/GA40%20Guita...uner_-49991548

http://www.samash.com/p/GA1%20Guitar...uner_-49954131
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:53 PM
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What tuner do you have now? Most will handle tuning any instrument, you don't need a special tuner for a 5 string.
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A boss TU-12H. It won't go any lower than C# when I've tried.
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A boss TU-12H. It won't go any lower than C# when I've tried.
That makes sense. Boss claims it will respond down to the C. I would suggest spending more and get a Pitchblack or similar.
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I don't HAVE anymore money, as I just bought a lakland 55-01 for $530. I'm 14, income is slow.

It's getting here wednesday.

I'm not interested in Pedal-Type tuners, only handheld ones. As long as it works, I dont care about anything else.
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I don't HAVE anymore money, as I just bought a lakland 55-01 for $530. I'm 14, income is slow.

It's getting here wednesday.

I'm not interested in Pedal-Type tuners, only handheld ones. As long as it works, I dont care about anything else.
I'm 16, income is non existent.

I've used the Korg handheld tuners and they haven't even responded to my E string very well.
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Hmm, my teacher uses a Korg handheld. He's a full-time professional jazz musician, and uses the same tuner with me when my harmonics are dead. It works just fine.
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Old 11-29-2009, 03:12 PM
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Can't you play an octave higher when you're tuning (you know, touch the middle of the string)? Any working tuner will be able to handle that pitch.
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Can't you play an octave higher when you're tuning (you know, touch the middle of the string)? Any working tuner will be able to handle that pitch.
Not if the intonation is off.

You should keep the boss and tune to harmonics.
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Can't you play an octave higher when you're tuning (you know, touch the middle of the string)? Any working tuner will be able to handle that pitch.
Never thought about this!

Fretting or harmonic 12th?


I'm going to be doing Drop C as soon as I get my 4 string bongo as well!
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It's not a good idea to tune to a fretted note.

Harmonics are fine. Tuning to harmonics at 5 and 7 is pretty reliable.
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+1 on the harmonic 12th
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It's not a good idea to tune to a fretted note.
unless the intonation is fine, which it should be. [or why play it]

or .. ear!
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Old 11-29-2009, 03:27 PM
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unless the intonation is fine, which it should be. [or why play it]

or .. ear!
Not just intonation, technique as well.

+1 to tuning by ear
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Can't you play an octave higher when you're tuning (you know, touch the middle of the string)? Any working tuner will be able to handle that pitch.
sure.

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Not if the intonation is off.
"intonation" only applies to fretted notes. unless the string itself is bad, the 12th fret open harmonic will be pretty much the same pitch as the open string.

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It's not a good idea to tune to a fretted note.

Harmonics are fine. Tuning to harmonics at 5 and 7 is pretty reliable.
actually, the 5th-7th harmonic thing is inherently wrong, and will leave you close, but not right. (it's about 2 cents off, which can add up across 4 strings to sound pretty bad.)

if the set-up is in fact good and the strings are good, tuning a string to the next-lower string fretted at the 5th fret is more accurate than the 5th/7th thing.
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+1 to tuning by ear
I'm a fan of tuning by ear, except at live shows or recordings. It really is worth it to be certain there. Trust me.
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