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09-27-2008, 02:04 PM
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i went to my local store earlier with my dad (he plays guitar and wanted to pick something up), and they had a digitech bass synth wah pedal available. having listened to clips online of it previously, i asked if i could take a look at it. i grabbed a 4-string samick (passive elevtronics, volume/tone controls), plugged in, and turned the pedal on. it was a fun little pedal and scrolling through the modes i found some cool sounds that i could potentially use (being a metal player). even if it wouldnt be in a song, i like to record my own stuff and mess around with it. but anyway, i pushed the switch to put it in bypass, and no sound came out. it wasnt a volume problem, as the volume on the bass was fuly cranked, there isnt a volume control on the pedal, and the volume on the amp was unchanged. is it just a lemon, or is it something up with all digitech pedals? it was being run with a 9-volt, no power cable. also, the cable was running out of the out 2 (effect) slot. i think thats the problem, but im just checking. thanks! | 
09-27-2008, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Ethanator the cable was running out of the out 2 (effect) slot. i think thats the problem, but im just checking. | Yup. I do that all the time and it takes me like an hour to figure out. 
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09-27-2008, 03:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham, UK | | Yeah, using the other output will solve your problem 
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09-27-2008, 04:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: lost in the k-hole | | sweet... so that moves the digitech synth and chorus back off of my 'do not want' list after their 5-hour stay there  | 
09-27-2008, 05:18 PM
|  | Jazz Chicken | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ennui, IN USA | | | Yep, that tripped me up when I first got mine. I planned to run it stereo, but found out that when the effect is off, so is the sound. Just as well, I'm too lazy to carry that rack around.
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10-03-2008, 06:45 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oak Harbor, Washington | | | Question... so running out of the other output will allow you to use the effect normally? I.E. you can stomp to get the effect and then stomp again to turn off the effect (and still pass signal)? I'm trying to understand the difference between these outputs (and how to wire it up) as I may be getting one of these soon.
Jay
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10-03-2008, 06:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Champaign, IL | | | Yes, the effect output is only going to send sound out if you stomp it (red light on.) The normal (dry) path works both ways (the way you would except it to.)
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10-03-2008, 06:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham, UK | | | the system with the outputs on this pedal is a little wierd.
If you plug a cable into the "out 1 normal (dry)" output then the signal will be your normal tone when the pedal is bypassed, and the effected (i.e. synthamified) tone will be present when the pedal is engaged.
If you plug a cable in the "out 2 (effect)" output, you will get the synth sound when the pedal is on, and nothing at all (silence) when the pedal is off.
if you plug a cable into both outputs (if you are using two amps, for example) then this will happen:
pedal bypassed: Out 1 muted, Out 2 has normal signal
Pedal engaged: Out 1 has the synthamified signal, out 2 is muted.
so, to conclude you want to use "out 1 normal (dry)" in your case.
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10-03-2008, 07:22 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oak Harbor, Washington | | | Thanks guys... Appreciate it very much. I actually found a .pdf manual of the synth wah (not the bass version) - that helped clear it up as well.
Thanks again,
Jay
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10-03-2008, 07:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oak Harbor, Washington | | | One more quick question How is the bass synth wah's bypass, and where do you guys normally use it in the chain?
I ask given the nice comments about its octaver function - typically octavers work better toward the beginning of the chain...I also need to decide whether to put this in a separate loop or not.
Thanks in advance,
Jay
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10-03-2008, 10:36 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Berkeley, CA | | | I don't have a problem with the BSW's bypass. I use great-sounding basses and high-quality, short cables. I usually run the BSW first in my FX chain. | 
10-03-2008, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by winston I don't have a problem with the BSW's bypass. I use great-sounding basses and high-quality, short cables. I usually run the BSW first in my FX chain. | Thanks,
Jay
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10-03-2008, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vicenzajay How is the bass synth wah's bypass, and where do you guys normally use it in the chain?
I ask given the nice comments about its octaver function - typically octavers work better toward the beginning of the chain...I also need to decide whether to put this in a separate loop or not.
Thanks in advance,
Jay | The bypass is quiet, I dont hear any change in my tone, either that or my bass amp is set up to accomodate any coloration.
I use mine at the beginning of the chain.
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10-03-2008, 03:41 PM
|  | Jazz Chicken | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ennui, IN USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by vicenzajay How is the bass synth wah's bypass, and where do you guys normally use it in the chain?
I ask given the nice comments about its octaver function - typically octavers work better toward the beginning of the chain...I also need to decide whether to put this in a separate loop or not.
Thanks in advance,
Jay | 1st in the chain. No prob with the bypass.
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10-03-2008, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbob Jones Yeah, using the other output will solve your problem  | and if not, thats what you call a broken pedal..
but yeah thats almost definately the problem.
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10-06-2008, 01:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oak Harbor, Washington | | | Thanks... For all the answers to the questions...
Jay
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