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08-12-2007, 11:29 PM
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hey, im dreaming up an effect, but i need some help...i want to rip the guts out of an old wah, and fill it with disortion. has anyone ever done this? |
08-12-2007, 11:37 PM
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08-12-2007, 11:56 PM
| | | | i want to make it control the gain. i want it so i can do a sweep and just make it crunch. but im not sure how to do that...any input? |
08-13-2007, 01:11 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canberra, Australia | | | You take a dist pedal, remove the gain knob, run wires to the pot mounted in the wah pedal and bob's my uncle. Ok, so there's a few things that need to be checked, like pot value and taper etc but it ain't rocket surgery.
First step is to get a wah housing, then you know what sort of pot you can mount (or utilise the existing one) etc.
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08-13-2007, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 4StringedFreak  i want to rip the guts out of an old wah, and fill it with disortion. | Just quoting 'cuz I liked the way it read. Sort of like a Tom Waits lyric, but more punk. |
08-13-2007, 01:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lismore, NSW, Australia | | yup... if your happy still having the distortion in its original case and just utilising the wah as a gain control via external wires, then, as nifty said, its relatively easy.
If you want to get the distortion internals into the wah, then thats gonna be a tad more difficult  You would have to get a wah, see what space internally (and externally for the other knobs to be mounted) you have available and go from there...
In any application, the basic idea with this, is that you need to get the pot in the wah connected to the wires that the original gain pot is currently connected too. Then Bobs Nifty's uncle...
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08-13-2007, 02:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, U.K | | | If you have it controlling the gain then won't it mess with the volumes? Making it louder or quieter than unity gain?
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08-13-2007, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FunkyAssBassMan If you have it controlling the gain the won't it mess with the volumes? Making it louder or quieter than unity gain? | Yep
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08-13-2007, 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FunkyAssBassMan If you have it controlling the gain the won't it mess with the volumes? Making it louder or quieter than unity gain? | Only if it normally does that when you turn the gain knob...
A Wah is just a foot controlled knob on a pot rather than a finger dialed knob on a pot.
As long as the resistance of the pot in the wah is in the same ball park as the current one, there isn't really any difference.
EDIT: If the OP just wants to be able to control the gain, but with a wah instead of fingers, then thats what it would do
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08-13-2007, 02:50 AM
| | Not Actually Knighted... Yet! | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio | | | haven't thought of doing one of these, though I have considered getting expression controlled delay: delay time AND/OR feedback/repeats
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08-13-2007, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KarateKid25 Only if it normally does that when you turn the gain knob...
A Wah is just a foot controlled knob on a pot rather than a finger dialed knob on a pot.
As long as the resistance of the pot in the wah is in the same ball park as the current one, there isn't really any difference. | Isn't that the case on most gain pedals though?
By turning the gain knob up the volume usually goes up with it...
So if your controlling the gain knob with the pedal then you're going to have bend down to change the volume and make it the volume it was before which makes it kind of pointless to have one parameter being controlled via a wah pedal...
IMO it would be better to stick a delay pedal or modulation or possibly filter in there. |
08-13-2007, 02:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lismore, NSW, Australia | | hmmm...after my previous post and re-reading, I can see what your getting at funkyassbassman...
Perhaps the OP is more hoping to adjust their entire sound as you normally would rather than just tweaking 1 knob..
Its all a bit cryptic at the moment
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08-13-2007, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FunkyAssBassMan Isn't that the case on most gain pedals though?
By turning the gain knob up the volume usually goes up with it...
So if your controlling the gain knob with the pedal then you're going to have bend down to change the volume and make it the volume it was before which makes it kind of pointless to have one parameter being controlled via a wah pedal...
IMO it would be better to stick a delay pedal or modulation or possibly filter in there. |
Heh...posted while I was re-posting. Yeah, I see what your getting at 
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08-13-2007, 02:56 AM
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08-13-2007, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by KarateKid25 hmmm...after my previous post and re-reading, I can see what your getting at funkyassbassman...
Perhaps the OP is more hoping to adjust their entire sound as you normally would rather than just tweaking 1 knob..
Its all a bit cryptic at the moment | Yeah...
Perhaps modding it to have 2 expression pedal outputs would be more practical...
EDIT: Ok, I've just noticed you wanted the effect inside the wah so you won't want to do the expression pedal mod, personally, I wouldn't recommend distortion in wah pedal.
Possibly look into having modulation and delay effects in. Ring modulators in wah pedals looks like a very very cool, the wah could be controlling the frequency.
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08-13-2007, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Edward V or you could have it change tone, that could be cool, or it could be all too similar to a wah pedal after a dist... depending on the pedal anyway... | Oh yeah, that's a good idea actually! You could always try that. |
08-13-2007, 03:07 AM
| | Not Actually Knighted... Yet! | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio | | | I think we have shown that controlling the gain with an expression pedal isn't practical as a mod if you are trying to change it on the fly... I assume he wants to change gain as he plays back and forth a lot like during a solo or something, in which case, yes, not easily done. if he just wants to tweak the settings more easily between songs... ok the two treadles would work
you could do that whole change gain thing, but it would probably be easiest to make using digital controls
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08-13-2007, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Edward V I think we have shown that controlling the gain with an expression pedal isn't practical as a mod if you are trying to change it on the fly... I assume he wants to change gain as he plays back and forth a lot like during a solo or something, in which case, yes, not easily done. if he just wants to tweak the settings more easily between songs... ok the two treadles would work
you could do that whole change gain thing, but it would probably be easiest to make using digital controls | Yep... The 2x treadles would suck...
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08-13-2007, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by KarateKid25 Yep... The 2x treadles would suck... |   |
08-13-2007, 09:36 AM
| | | | well i got the wah, its a morley pro series wah volume. the volume setting still works, but the wah doesnt. so i want to make it when i do a sweep, instead of making a wah sound, it will give a quick lick of distorsion. im not alarmed if it gets louder when its on, that might work out better anyways. i want it to be all internal, which i know i'll have room for, its just a question of how to change the gain knob to be adjusted by the foot control | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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