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Old 10-26-2010, 09:58 PM
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Distortion and overdrive Pedals that DON'T kill your low end

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So my band has gone from having 2 guitar players to just one, leaving a lot of "space" in the sonic spectrum for me to fill the gap.

I'm looking for a really good distortion/overdrive/fuzz pedal that does not kill low end response. I play a Lakland 5 string and spend a lot of time on the low B so I NEED bottom end.

I have a Sansamp BDDI and while the overdrive does sound good on its own, it get lost in the mix.

Ideally I would like to get distortion/overdrive like that of Muse/RATM.

Any suggestions for a really solid overdrive/distortion pedal that will actually not kill my low end?
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:59 PM
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I can't recommend the Tronographic Rusty Box enough

Or get a smallsound/bigsound Team_Awesome Fuzzmachine. THAT'LL fill up some sonic space, and then some
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:05 PM
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Check out a Tech 21 XXL. There's a bass version.

If my memory serves me correctly Chris from Muse has a heap of different dirt pedals, but some version of a Big Muff as well as an Akai Deep Impact seems to get some of his tones. Depends on the era/album really
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:41 PM
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EHX Bass Big Muff. it in addition has a blend that lets you come reasonably close to Muse's biamping, a la Hysteria.
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:43 PM
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I'm in the same boat....single guitarist....filling the space left to me....

I do love the Wren & Cuff...Pickle Pie B. http://www.wrenandcuff.com/
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Check out a Tech 21 XXL. There's a bass version.

If my memory serves me correctly Chris from Muse has a heap of different dirt pedals, but some version of a Big Muff as well as an Akai Deep Impact seems to get some of his tones. Depends on the era/album really
+1 on the tech 21 xxl bass edition distortion pedal. this distortion pedal has a pretty killer sound and it doesn't seem to obliterate any low-end what so ever.
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:51 PM
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I have some that I have used and loved.
Bass-drive MOSFET: nice transparent OD with plenty of low end extension.
Swollen Pickle: sounds like a screaming caged monster.
Brass Master: sounds like the earth just made the great brown mountain.
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:58 PM
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Right now I'm using an Xotic Bass BB for a transparent overdrive/distortion and an Earthbound Audio Supercollider (a muff derivative) for fuzz.

Both maintain the low end most solidly.
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Old 10-26-2010, 11:32 PM
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I play a lot of distorted bass and have four pedals I use. I list them in order of best low end to least.

1) Boss ODB-3
2) DOD FX91 Bass Overdrive
3) 90's EHX Russian V8 Big Muff Pi
4) 80's ProCo Rat

And runner up: Boss Super Octave OC-3 its an octave pedal with distortion with an input voiced for bass, it gets kinda chaotic in the distortion mode.

The Boss ODB-3 is the newest and by far my fave. Its called an overdrive but it really covers the spectrum of overdrive to full on fuzz. It has a mix knob for a mix of dry and dirt signals and a two band hi/low EQ. It really is a wonder to behold. The Rat has insane distortion and sustain but it seems to prefer either low end grit or sustained buzz but not both a once, and its a balance act to get deep lows at all by its self. The DOD is rather good at keeping low end but is very subtle, the sound of slightly overdriven tubes. It really just adds a hint of grit even at full tilt. The Big Muff Pi is full on fuzz with some decent low end. But the Boss is the best by far at both a wide range of dirt to HUGE low end. Try getting a few and mixing them. I use the DOD with the Rat to give it more low end dirt while keeping the buzz-saw distortion and sustain. The Big Muff I use with the Boss OC-3 for pure mayhem.
To address your specific requirements I suggest first the Boss ODB-3 for the massive low end it provides with the whole spectrum of grit and the Russian Big Muff Pi for bragging rights.
Of note on the Muff, it is the Russian model as opposed to the other versions that is supposed to provide the low end and has for years been considered a default "go-to" pedal for bass fuzz, plus I have never played any other EHX Muff's so I cant attest to any other version. All these pedals including the Big Muff are cheap enough if you look.One good method of finding cheap pedals is look on eBay for pedals ending late at night on a weekday, like 3-4am eastern, that way its late across all time zones, no one is up to out bid. Hope this helps.
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Old 10-27-2010, 01:37 AM
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black russian big muff, if you can source one. they should be on ebay.
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hughes and kettner warp factor. from a little buzz to buzzsaw. with a bass boost if you arent getting enough. i love that little thing.
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I find it strange that you would lose bottom end with the sansamp. I have a similar rig (lakland usa 5string, prog BDDI, playing in some bands with only 1 guitar player) and never found problems in my bddi.

I have 3 settings in 1) light ampeg-simul 2) 'vintage', more mid-based growl 3) heavy overdrive blended with some clean signal (a bit muse time is running out alike).


Other dirt pedals I use without problems are a little big muff, guv'nor2 and mastotron. Never feel that I lose bottom end with those as well (au contraire: I often get compliments from band members and audience on how I carry the band when the guitar goes up high in a solo)


The blend knob in the bddi helps, but how is the rest of your setup? Asking this because I play an SWR 400 top and 4x10 and have the EQ set pretty flat - boosting low end makes for a thicker tone but pedals can mess up that bass really quick. I prefer boosting the volume to get the pressure I want and cutting on those SWR highs.



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Old 10-27-2010, 07:31 AM
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What i've used:

Fuzz: Bluebeard Fuzz, EHX Bass Muff

OD: Digitech Bad Monkey, VooDoo Labs Sparkle Drive, Boss ODB-3, DOD250

Dist.: DOD Grunge, DOD Big Pig
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:35 AM
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If you don't want to spend a fortune, get a Messdrive!
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:39 AM
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The only way I've achieved this is by using both channels on my amp. One clean and one effected. The clean channel maintains the lows while the effected channel gives you the distortion.

As far as straight pedals go, the MXR Blowtorch did an alright job of maintaining low end, but at the loss of distortion. You'd get more of a light growly fuzz with the blend dialed towards the clean.
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for what you want - Fulltone Bassdrive.

nice drive and still articulate in the low end.
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