Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Effects [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-24-2011, 02:46 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
Send a message via AIM to Hutzbordello
Distortion Pot in bass?

Sign in to disble this ad
I read that one of the bassists for king crimson has a distortion pot in his bass, and the guitarist for muse has a Fuzz Factory in his.

how does one go about doing this? and is it costly?
__________________
The official overdriven, fuzzed out and distorted club #6
Mediocre Bass Player Club- #525
  #2  
Old 03-24-2011, 03:21 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Finland (Northern Europe)
Hi.

Probably covered in the effects subforum, I wouldn't know I never go there, but a simple diode circuit might do the job.

Then there's a quite a few pre-amps (for guitar) that may offer the distortion You seek.

And then to the obvious question as to WHY?
Wouldn't a stomp box or a rack unit (both with a controller) be better?

Regards
Sam
  #3  
Old 03-24-2011, 04:14 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Send a message via AIM to __HM__ Send a message via MSN to __HM__ Send a message via Yahoo to __HM__
I dropped a Keely Boss DS-1 into an acoustic a while ago, along with a set of humbuckers.. Didn't sound half bad. lol. Cut a hole for the battery box, drill for 3 knobs, a toggle and an LED, and wire an SPDT switch to control it. Then take out the input jacks, and just run the pups straight through it. Instant distortion preamp.
__________________
Why only play ONE instrument? "If you're gonna fall off a cliff, jump."
Ohio Bassist Club Member #161
  #4  
Old 03-24-2011, 06:16 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: El Catllar (Spain)
Black Ice

I've been thinkin of this for a while, there's a luthier in Barcelona who sells this little thing call black ice. They say that's tone cap size and uses a pot to control it, and it's passive, no batteries. I try to google it but i don't find any web in english, sorry, here's the link:

Productos > BLACK ICE -Distorsionador pasivo-

Ah!, price is 38 euro, about 54 dollars, not bad...
__________________
Official Fender Precision Bass Club #668

Last edited by Beat Bass : 03-24-2011 at 06:18 AM.
  #5  
Old 03-24-2011, 06:34 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tampa, Florida
There are some on ebay. They might be cheaply built but thy are there. Just another pot it looks like
  #6  
Old 03-24-2011, 06:35 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Chester, Pa.,USA
Didn't certain Hofner models have that?
__________________
You can call me ...Cliff.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
  #7  
Old 03-24-2011, 06:48 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Finland (Northern Europe)
Hi.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Bass View Post

Productos > BLACK ICE -Distorsionador pasivo-

Ah!, price is 38 euro, about 54 dollars, not bad...
That's one of the gizmos I was thinking about but had forgotten the name.

38€ being bad is relative, IIRC there's just under .5€ worth of components on that blob of epoxy, two regular diodes to be exact .

OP, if Black Ice sounds like it's what You're after, please do google:

Black ice distortion
passive clipping
DIY Black ice distortion.


Regards
Sam
  #8  
Old 03-24-2011, 08:34 AM
TalkBass Pro

Owner: FBB Bass Works
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Maryland
Stew Mac sells Black Ice. I think you need a pretty hot signal to get it to clip.
__________________
owner: FBB Bass Works
  #9  
Old 03-24-2011, 09:05 AM
ctmullins's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: MS Gulf Coast
Supporting Member
Been there, done that. One Schotzky diode (I think I used BAT 10s) across each side. Just a basic fuzz tone, not really an overdriven sound. Two diodes removed too much low frequency signal, one was better, but the tone was rather underwhelming...
__________________
Todd
Tobias/ThunderStick/PurpleBeast | SansAmp | QSC | BFM
  #10  
Old 03-24-2011, 10:58 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
Send a message via AIM to Hutzbordello
ah thanks, it sounded like something cool to do to add something new to bass but maybe its not worth my time.......thanks for all the info. guys in luthier know their stuff for sure
__________________
The official overdriven, fuzzed out and distorted club #6
Mediocre Bass Player Club- #525
  #11  
Old 03-24-2011, 11:14 AM
Beauchene Implements's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: MA
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by ctmullins View Post
Been there, done that. One Schotzky diode (I think I used BAT 10s) across each side. Just a basic fuzz tone, not really an overdriven sound. Two diodes removed too much low frequency signal, one was better, but the tone was rather underwhelming...
This is a neat idea, just cut off half of the waveform with a diode. Shottky diodes would be interesting to try in that role, because of the low voltage drop across it. You'll get less output as you turn it up, but it would be much more attenuatd through something like a zener diode.
  #12  
Old 03-24-2011, 03:28 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
Send a message via AIM to Hutzbordello
would this be better for a passive or active?
__________________
The official overdriven, fuzzed out and distorted club #6
Mediocre Bass Player Club- #525
  #13  
Old 03-24-2011, 03:32 PM
jumbodbassman's Avatar
Gold Supporting Member with a bad case of GAS

Born Again Tubey
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Stuck in traffic -NY & CT
GOLD Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by C.Linton View Post
Didn't certain Hofner models have that?
hofner deluxe (gold hardware beatle bass) and some vox sidewinders too!!!
__________________
Fodera; Fender; Scrolls; Ampeg ; Eden; Markbass; Wishbass; Warmoth ; Gibson Bass; VTbass; Tbird 76; JAEbird 2;
  #14  
Old 03-25-2011, 03:19 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: El Catllar (Spain)
Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Bird View Post
Hi.



That's one of the gizmos I was thinking about but had forgotten the name.

38€ being bad is relative, IIRC there's just under .5€ worth of components on that blob of epoxy, two regular diodes to be exact .

OP, if Black Ice sounds like it's what You're after, please do google:

Black ice distortion
passive clipping
DIY Black ice distortion.


Regards
Sam
The price is always relative, how much is really the cost of any bass, any amp or pedal or whatever?, I mean the price of components.
__________________
Official Fender Precision Bass Club #668
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:31 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.