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Old 05-31-2009, 07:55 AM
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I have some free time this summer and I would like to start building some effects myself starting with a kit from GGG or BYOC. Do you guys know what kits go well with bass and what kits take out the low end? I can guess the more obvious ones like the booster and a compressor will most likely retain the low end but I was looking for something to build after the booster and I'm worried I will choose a fuzz or od that wont do well with bass.

Also is there a way to tell from the circuit whether it will take out low frequencies and is there a general way to mod a pedal for bass (like change a resistor or capicitor value)?

All help is apreciated
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:59 AM
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Most of the dirt pedals they have will probably lose some to a lot of low end. It just depends on which one you get. Pick one and we can help you out. Sometimes a simple swap of input and output capacitors can make a huge difference. Sometimes it's more involved.
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Thanks for the reply

I have been reading up on the BYOC forums and read that most bassmods indeed require a different input or output capacitors. I choose the 250+ kit from BYOC here would that work? I'll go search their forum for some info.
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:11 AM
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Thanks for the reply

I have been reading up on the BYOC forums and read that most bassmods indeed require a different input or output capacitors. I choose the 250+ kit from BYOC here would that work? I'll go search their forum for some info.
There are a couple of things you can play around in that circuit. The simple mod for more low end would be to change the input capacitor from .01uF to 0.1uF or 1.0uF. That will let in a wider range of frequencies. Playing around with the values in the drive portion of the circuit (the feedback loop from pin 6 to pin 2 of the op-amp) can change the characteristics of the gain.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:06 PM
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Most of the dirt pedals they have will probably lose some to a lot of low end. It just depends on which one you get. Pick one and we can help you out. Sometimes a simple swap of input and output capacitors can make a huge difference. Sometimes it's more involved.
Actually their BYOC overdrive2 pedal retains the bass VERY well. In the instructions tell you how to mod for bass guitar. The EQ switch has a fat position that boosts the lows incredibly well.

I just finished building mine a few weeks ago. I built the mosfet version by the way.

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Old 05-31-2009, 12:17 PM
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There are a couple of things you can play around in that circuit. The simple mod for more low end would be to change the input capacitor from .01uF to 0.1uF or 1.0uF. That will let in a wider range of frequencies. Playing around with the values in the drive portion of the circuit (the feedback loop from pin 6 to pin 2 of the op-amp) can change the characteristics of the gain.
Thanks Ill try that when I start building it.

@Bassman: Sounds goog I might try and built it. Are you pleased with the sound of the OD2? Could you describe how it sounds and what the range of the gain is (from subtle crunch overdrive to really harsh all out overdrive)?
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Old 05-31-2009, 01:26 PM
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Thanks Ill try that when I start building it.

@Bassman: Sounds goog I might try and built it. Are you pleased with the sound of the OD2? Could you describe how it sounds and what the range of the gain is (from subtle crunch overdrive to really harsh all out overdrive)?
I'm more then happy with it. Its more of a smooth overdrive which I tend to like better. Tube sounding.

You can adjust the amount of overdrive inside using three pots, min overdrive, maximum overdrive & adjustment for amount of boost. I have it almost maxed out so you can get a distortion/fuzz kind of sound out of it in the fat mode.

Keep in mind I built the mosfet version that has mosfet clipping & buffers. If you build it without, it might sound more different.
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Old 05-31-2009, 03:22 PM
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Yes I know about the difference in clipping between silicone and mosfet and that mosfet clipping is usually percieved as more "warm" sounding. Thanks for the info.
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Old 05-31-2009, 05:20 PM
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I have some free time this summer and I would like to start building some effects myself starting with a kit from GGG or BYOC. Do you guys know what kits go well with bass and what kits take out the low end? I can guess the more obvious ones like the booster and a compressor will most likely retain the low end but I was looking for something to build after the booster and I'm worried I will choose a fuzz or od that wont do well with bass.

Also is there a way to tell from the circuit whether it will take out low frequencies and is there a general way to mod a pedal for bass (like change a resistor or capicitor value)?

All help is apreciated
i would've said go for the big muff kit you can tweak those to do seriously brutal low end ;p
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