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08-03-2010, 06:20 PM
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Hey everyone,
I know you can't properly "overdrive" a solid state amp, so I was wondering how you'd achieve this compression + soft clipping in a DIY pedal build. I would appreciate advice or links to schematics that are designed to work with SS amps.
Tyler | 
08-03-2010, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tbassist4 Hey everyone,
I know you can't properly "overdrive" a solid state amp, so I was wondering how you'd achieve this compression + soft clipping in a DIY pedal build. I would appreciate advice or links to schematics that are designed to work with SS amps.
Tyler | Hi T,
Soft clipping is achieved via an Op amp with two diodes in the feedback loop. This is a common topology, found in the Tubescreamer(symmetrical clipping) and Boss Super Overdrive(asymmetrical clipping.)
Here is a link to it. http://www.tonepad.com/getFile.asp?id=81
Hope this helps. 
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08-03-2010, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by B.C. Hi T,
Soft clipping is achieved via an Op amp with two diodes in the feedback loop. This is a common topology, found in the Tubescreamer(symmetrical clipping) and Boss Super Overdrive(asymmetrical clipping.)
Here is a link to it. http://www.tonepad.com/getFile.asp?id=81
Hope this helps.  | Exactly was I was looking for. Thanks!
Tyler | 
08-03-2010, 06:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boulder, Colorado | | | So, silly question, do I need to modify anything for this to work for bass, or will it work as is? | 
08-03-2010, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tbassist4 So, silly question, do I need to modify anything for this to work for bass, or will it work as is? | Well, in my experience, the Tube Screamer Topologies sound a little thin, ie they loose a lot of bass responce. What you can do is increase the input capacitor to a lower cutoff frequency. If that doesn't work, you can try the output capacitor. 
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08-03-2010, 06:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boulder, Colorado | | | Okay, sounds good, so what's the best way to test which cap I like better? I've done some real basic pedals before, but nothing where I've had to mess around with the schematic. Do I use something like alligator clips and switch them out until I find one I like? | 
08-03-2010, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tbassist4 Okay, sounds good, so what's the best way to test which cap I like better? I've done some real basic pedals before, but nothing where I've had to mess around with the schematic. Do I use something like alligator clips and switch them out until I find one I like? | There are standoffs you can use. I assume your using a pcb so I would solder two standoffs where the leads would be and swap to taste. 
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08-03-2010, 07:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boulder, Colorado | | | Awesome, thanks for taking the time to help me out. | 
08-03-2010, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tbassist4 Awesome, thanks for taking the time to help me out. | No problem, if you need anything else let me know. 
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08-04-2010, 10:53 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boulder, Colorado | | | In this circuit there's a section where you can choose whether you want symmetrical or asymmetrical clipping based on the number of diodes involved. If I wanted to add a switch to choose between these what kind of switch would I use? | 
08-04-2010, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tbassist4 In this circuit there's a section where you can choose whether you want symmetrical or asymmetrical clipping based on the number of diodes involved. If I wanted to add a switch to choose between these what kind of switch would I use? | I would use a DPDT switch. That way, you solder a diode to the top two leads(watch for direction), a normal connection for the middle two leads and then a jumper wire between the last two. 
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08-04-2010, 07:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX | | | Check out a Red LLama clone as well. Easy DIY build that sounds great on bass. Can be very tube-like.
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