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01-17-2013, 12:07 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Rochester, NY | | | Dod fx25 Hey everybody, I had a question about dod's envelope filters. I have a fx25 filter and my friend also has an fx25 filter. About a year ago I had an fx25B filter which had a third knob and was clearly a whole different model. However both mine and my friends are just called the fx25 yet they have a completely different build. Both just have 2 knobs; sensitivity and range. They are a different color green and have different style knobs etc. What is the deal here. Did dod just release another version of the same pedal and one is newer and one is older? What exactly is the difference here? Mine is on the right and my friends is on the left. I snagged the pics from ebay sales so I didnt have to take pics of both of our pedals. Thanks everybody.
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01-17-2013, 06:44 AM
|  | Registered User Exar went out of business, so... | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | They made several versions, with slightly different green color, foot-button style, knob style, and labeling. At least three shades of green, two knob types, two foot-button types, and half a dozen different variations on the silkscreened markings.
Internally, the basic circuit is almost identical, but with variations in specific component values, and very small adaptations to the circuit to accomodate those value changes.
They were produced across a period of several years, and the changes happened piecemeal, a little at a time, over time.
They all sound extremely similar. | 
01-17-2013, 07:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Madison, Wi | | | They changed the enclosure style. The one on the right appears to be from the 80's, the one on the left is probably from the 90s-00s. | 
01-17-2013, 09:37 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Rochester, NY | | | Thanks for the info guys! Any idea what they go for used? I'm thinking about selling mine. There is one on ebay for 180 but that seems kind of high. (the one on the right)
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01-17-2013, 10:01 AM
| | | | There are those who swear by the older, "Kermit Green" ones like the one in the picture on the right in your post. I had one; I wasn't impressed. Apparently, it's a filter you have to play juuuuust right and/or add a compressor and/or add a blender, because it's band pass and it can be quite unruly. Some folks really know how to make it work, though.
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01-17-2013, 10:42 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Rochester, NY | | | Yeah it gets amazing tone but its finicky. You move one of the knobs a tiny bit and is changes the whole sound. Not to mention the dynamics of your playing really affect how it sounds. It is a great pedal but i agree that you have to play it just right.
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01-17-2013, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Musicman1901 Thanks for the info guys! Any idea what they go for used? I'm thinking about selling mine. There is one on ebay for 180 but that seems kind of high. (the one on the right) | I got one a few months ago on CL for $60. My research showed that to be an average price. Mine is like the one on the left.
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01-17-2013, 08:54 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | You will find many here (myself included) that have bought, sold, re-bought and re-sold this pedal.
For me, very difficult to control the low end boost in a live situation.
Worth $40-50 IMO. | 
01-18-2013, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FilterFunk There are those who swear by the older, "Kermit Green" ones like the one in the picture on the right in your post. I had one; I wasn't impressed. Apparently, it's a filter you have to play juuuuust right and/or add a compressor and/or add a blender, because it's band pass and it can be quite unruly. Some folks really know how to make it work, though. | Exactly my experience with it, as a filter. But you can turn the sensitivity all the way down and mess with range to get some massive low-pass dub tones out of it, that's what I'm using mine for. I got mine (like the one on the left) used for $25.
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01-18-2013, 02:11 AM
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01-18-2013, 09:07 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Rochester, NY | | | Any idea about the one on the right? Everybody has commented on the one on the left and I don't have that one lol. Is the one on the right about the same or do they generally go for more because they're older?
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01-18-2013, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Musicman1901 Any idea about the one on the right? Everybody has commented on the one on the left and I don't have that one lol. Is the one on the right about the same or do they generally go for more because they're older? | On eBay, around $75 and up. They allegedly sound better, although I've never A/B'ed them myself.
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01-19-2013, 02:53 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: England | | | Ive got the exact same on in the photo on the right. fantastic pedal. Dont know an awful lot about it though picked it up off ebay real cheap after wanting one for years. Sounds fantastic but I often find myself using it as a low pass filter with the sensitivity all the way down. Could do with two of em really. | 
01-19-2013, 03:16 AM
|  | Registered User Exar went out of business, so... | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Musicman1901 Any idea about the one on the right? Everybody has commented on the one on the left and I don't have that one lol. Is the one on the right about the same or do they generally go for more because they're older? | I commented on both and said they sound quite similar. The older ones do tend to go for a bit more money, but not for any really good reason.
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01-20-2013, 10:06 AM
| | | | The LP static filter use worked very well at my gig last night, although there is a noticeable but not completely deadly volume drop. I have a clean boost, the exotic ep booster, and that handled the volume loss and sounded wonderful doing it. Nice to go from a real dub sound to a flat EQ with just a click of a footswitch.
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