DOD FX25 question

Bjazzman · #1 06-06-2010, 10:18 PM

so i love this pedal. it sounds so good both with the sensitivity turned way down for dub and turning it back up for funk. Most of the time i leave it down because it really brings out that feeling of the bass which i love so much.

my question is: is it better to have a di before this pedal for the soundman? i understand it's more for me than for the audience since it makes the sound become thicker but it also creates so much bass that it can throw off most soundguys. I think i'd rather have them do their thing and leave the deep bass for my stage sound.

if i did however use a di out of my amp head and just feed my stage sound to the house, how can i compensate for the tonal differences between regular bass tone and this fat dub sound?

bassbmx · #2 06-07-2010, 04:47 AM

Depends what you want out front I guess. If all I wanted on stage and out front was big dubby fatness, I'd probably put the DI after the FX25.

Perhaps DI box before the FX25 and another DI after or use your amps DI if it has one. That way, the sound guy could blend them.

kaputsport · #3 06-07-2010, 04:53 AM

I always have my DI after all effects.

No point in using the effects if only you can hear them.

Bjazzman · #4 06-07-2010, 05:59 AM

yeah normally i put the di after everything but this pedal is different so blending might be a good idea

**TheMutt** · #5 06-07-2010, 06:37 AM

I'd say DI after all the effects. If it's something that is part of your sound, the soundman/men should know what to do with it, or he/she/they're not worth their salt.

supermonkey · #6 06-07-2010, 11:59 AM

I agree with the other posts that you want your bass sound hitting the PA, but my experience onstage with that particular pedal would lead me to say "DI before".

When I used it in my chain, my bass would just get swallowed in the mix whenever I kicked it on. And frankly, I don't trust most sound guys to handle an fx-laden bass tone.

Ultimately my solution was to arrange my fx chain so I have a wet/dry blend for using effects. I use a Boss LS-2 right now. There's tons of others.

But I can run a mix (that I control) of wet and dry signal to my amp and or sound system. I DI the at amp, and keep both the tone I want and the control of wet vs dry.

And, frankly, I don't trust most sound guys to know what to do with a hard-to-dynamically-manage effect like an envelope filter....

Bjazzman · #7 06-07-2010, 01:46 PM

The thing is that I really don't see a need to blend on my end since I like it for what it is if you know what I mean. I don't think cutting frequencies to blend it would do anything for me at the stage sound level. I guess I should just do a di before and after and soundcheck both sounds to see what they're dealing with. Or do you think they'll just not even bother with the post eq di at all? Seems to me its an all or nothing situation. If I had the luxury of having 3 di's to send to the soundman like jmj does with beck I totally would but most bar soundmen don't give a hoot about most bass players imho

Floridabwoy · #8 06-07-2010, 01:57 PM

yeah... after... or you will not get the funk quack out front....

Me.

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Jimbob Jones · #9 06-07-2010, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaputsport

I always have my DI after all effects.

No point in using the effects if only you can hear them.

Big +1

I had a soundguy come up after a soundcheck and try to sneakily bypass my pedalboard once! I caught him and spoke to him, and it turned out he didn't like the volume spike on my synth pedal (why didn't he just ask?

).

As far as the fx25 is concerned, sending the sound guy 2 signals; one with, one without is a good idea.