Does this effect exist?

Dogbertday · #1 08-19-2008, 10:00 AM

So I'm not a big effects guy by any stretch but right now I have one sound that I think would be interesting and I'm wondering if it exists or if I have to find a non-pedal method for accomplishing this goal.

The effect would be an octave up pedal where I could put distortion on the upper octave only.

Right now my only solution would be to haul a guitar amp around, use an octave pedal that eleminated the original note going into that (with the distortion on of course) but still have the original bass signal run through my main rig.... as you can see a pedal would be much easier

Thanks!

bassman03 · #2 08-19-2008, 10:12 AM

Only way i could think of would to buy a POG (because right now that's the only pedal i can think of that does two octives up) and add distorion. But i'm not too educated in effects, so i'm pretty sure others can help you out way more than i can

Revvv · #3 08-19-2008, 10:15 AM

The best way, and the only way I can think of would be with the POG and a distortion run through a looping system.

Record the dirsorted POG and then run your playback while you are playing again live.

alexei · #4 08-19-2008, 10:17 AM

if you need it for recording is pretty easy to do it just recording a second layer an octave up, and adding a distortion.
If it's for the live gig, you can try to teach the riff to a guitard and expect him to play it at unison with you. Of course, distortion pedal on his sound.

Not a big help, but still better than nothing I guess. Good luck!

OptimusPrime · #5 08-19-2008, 10:18 AM

EHX MicroPOG (use both outputs), some sort of fuzz and a Boss LS-2.

ehque · #6 08-19-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by OptimusPrime

EHX MicroPOG (use both outputs), some sort of fuzz and a Boss LS-2.

A much more elegant solution.

Any fuzz-based octaver will also sound pretty much like that. the POG can get quite clinical if applied wrongly.

CliftonBonney · #7 08-19-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogbertday

So I'm not a big effects guy by any stretch but right now I have one sound that I think would be interesting and I'm wondering if it exists or if I have to find a non-pedal method for accomplishing this goal.

The effect would be an octave up pedal where I could put distortion on the upper octave only.

Right now my only solution would be to haul a guitar amp around, use an octave pedal that eleminated the original note going into that (with the distortion on of course) but still have the original bass signal run through my main rig.... as you can see a pedal would be much easier

Thanks!

I guess you're wanting one pedal to do this? I don't know of one.

You could achieve this with a blender. You could run the octave pedal and a distortion pedal through the effect loop. Then blend in the original tone. I do this quite a bit in my three piece band especially when our guitarist does his solos because it can sound like a bass and rhythm guitar at the same time.

Xotic Effects (X-Blender - more expensive) and Barge Concepts (VB-jr - less expensive) have good blenders.

speak_onion · #8 08-19-2008, 10:23 AM

Foxrox Octron or an Akai Unibass are some good single-pedal solutions.

Chris V. · #9 08-19-2008, 10:26 AM

Get a Barge Concepts VB-jr. and put an octave up pedal with a distortion in the loop. Blend that with your clean signal. Hey presto.

Dogbertday · #10 08-19-2008, 10:36 AM

I was hoping it could be a one pedal solution, but obviously I gotta do what I gotta do.

I would be using this live in a band where one of the guitarists is away at school and can't make it to every practice or gig to simply fill up the sound of a rhythm guitar with my bass a bit.

I'll look into these options and keep looking for the solution too.

Is there an octave pedal with an effects loop for just the adjusted pitch?

four2oh · #11 08-19-2008, 10:43 AM

Here's my setup for that type of effect:

Bass >
Xotic X-Blender (loop) > Whammy IV (2 oct UP) > Devi Ever Godzilla Fuzz > Boss RE-20 Space Echo > (loop)
> Amp

ok, so the cool key part is that the Boss RE-20 has a switch that outputs only the delay and not the intial note triggering the delay, so what happens is that my natural bass tone ends up having a trailing distorted 2 octave up "guitar-like" sound. This allowed me to kick one of our guitarist over to keyboard duties.

CliftonBonney · #12 08-19-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by four2oh

This allowed me to kick one of our guitarist over to keyboard duties.

Nice!

bigchiefbc · #13 08-19-2008, 10:49 AM

Not a cheap solution by any means, but the way I am running right now is, bass -> A/B/Y switch -> channel A going through my bass effects, then to my bass amp. channel B then goes to an EHX HOG, which has only the +1 octave, +1.5 octave and +2 octaves on, then some other effects, to a Marshall guitar amp. Sounds pretty killer, but the HOG was pretty darned expensive

Dogbertday · #14 08-19-2008, 10:50 AM

Very cool solution...

also though I only need one octave up

Joe Gress · #15 08-19-2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogbertday

Very cool solution...

also though I only need one octave up

Maybe some thing like an Octavio matched with a blender then?

Does any one make an Octavio that works well with bass?

bigchiefbc · #16 08-19-2008, 11:06 AM

What you are describing is the Akai Unibass. It will do the octave up and distort it for you.

The octavia-style fuzzes do not produce a prominent octave-up unless you play up high on the neck. Down low they sound different, not as much of an octave-up, more like just strange harmonics

lug · #17 08-19-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bigchiefbc

What you are describing is the Akai Unibass. It will do the octave up and distort it for you.

The octavia-style fuzzes do not produce a prominent octave-up unless you play up high on the neck. Down low they sound different, not as much of an octave-up, more like just strange harmonics

A clip of the Unibass going between bass, octive up, and combined by our very own Jazz_Ad...
http://www.geocities.com/basseffects/UBdemotwo.mp3

Chris V. · #18 08-19-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by four2oh

Here's my setup for that type of effect:

Bass >
Xotic X-Blender (loop) > Whammy IV (2 oct UP) > Devi Ever Godzilla Fuzz > Boss RE-20 Space Echo > (loop)
> Amp

ok, so the cool key part is that the Boss RE-20 has a switch that outputs only the delay and not the intial note triggering the delay, so what happens is that my natural bass tone ends up having a trailing distorted 2 octave up "guitar-like" sound. This allowed me to kick one of our guitarist over to keyboard duties.

I love that. Wow. I really like that... What or whom was your muse?