Downsized! PT Pro to PT Jr - pics of both

[Crabby]

I posted my new PT Jr in a few places this evening but thought it might be fun to show how I managed to downsize from the PT Pro with 16 pedals to the PT Jr with 7. I am really happy with the results. The pro was really hard to manage and pretty much rediculous (although impressive). The new setup is very practical and I look forward to making a few changes in the future.

I really want to add a DiscomBobulator and possibly a Carbon Copy delay but of course, other things would have to go. Its a challenge to be limited to a small board but its so easy to carry this thing around in my car that i cant see going back to anything bigger.

So here's where I started:







And here is where I ended up:













Any thoughts on ways to improve this setup are always appreciated

[grace & groove]

Pretty sweet.


The only thing I was wondering about is why you have the Rust Ride AND the Bass-Drive on there? Though I've never played the Hao pedal, I heard more than once that it didn't really have any sounds that the Fulltone couldn't cover.

I think if I were you, I would take the Rust Ride out of the board and replace it with some modulation. You had a lot of that on your PT Pro but now have it downsized to just two pedals. I'd imagine that you would like another one on your board, but I don't know you so... .

[KarateKid25]

Hey Crabby, what kind of daisy chain is that? Mine has straight connectors and they take up too much damn space...

Thanks

[rustynuts]

Originally Posted by KarateKid25

Hey Crabby, what kind of daisy chain is that? Mine has straight connectors and they take up too much damn space...

Thanks

I don't think it's a 1SPOT because my 1SPOT plugs look a little different but they are angled.

Originally Posted by grace & groove

Pretty sweet. The only thing I was wondering about is why you have the Rust Ride AND the Bass-Drive on there? Though I've never played the Hao pedal, I heard more than once that it didn't really have any sounds that the Fulltone couldn't cover.

I was sadly disappointed when I brought the Rust Ride home....Don't get me wrong, it sounded fantastic, quality build to it and all that, but just nothing the Bass Drive didn't already do. So far, it's the only bass pedal I've gotten rid of.....And I really wanted to like it too.

And of course, others' mileage will invariably vary.

[TaySte_2000]

This thread is all kinds of fail, pedalboards don't get smaller it's against nature.



Nice board though





I guess

[Mr. Pickles]

Crabby, you crazy!

[KarateKid25]

Originally Posted by rustynuts

I don't think it's a 1SPOT because my 1SPOT plugs look a little different but they are angled.

Thanks... Good enough for me. Im just after angled of any kind. All the local music shops to me carry the same straight ones I have. They are space wasters.

[KarateKid25]

Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

This thread is all kinds of fail, pedalboards don't get smaller it's against nature.

Unless of course you go from a big board to multiple little boards

[dannybuoy]

I got my right angled daisy chain from ebay.

[kevteop]

Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

This thread is all kinds of fail, pedalboards don't get smaller it's against nature.

+1. Burn the witch.

[Crabby]

I am using a Godlyke Powerall but bought Visual Sound daisy chains as I need the right angle plugs. They were only $9 each (five plugs per chain). I am fully intending to put a Voodoo Labs PedalpowerII under the board as it came with mounting brackets but it pisses me off that the Voodoo Labs unit comes with straight power plugs. Its expensive enough as it is!

I agree with you all that the Fulltone and Rustride are redundant. My problem is that the RustRide sounds slightly better to my ears although its nowhere near as practical. I paid an assload of money for it ($200 canadian) before the Canadian dollar equalized with the USD, so I'm kind of stick with it for now.

I would very much like another filter of some kind to replace the Rust Ride but I've gotta slow down onth espending for a bit. I am actually really enjoying the tech 21 Bass Driver which I never expected to actually put on my board. I have it set up for a warm SVT type setting and its a great alternative tone to have available.

[anyonefortennis]

Love the idea of downsizing but when doing that you have to remove redundancy. If I was you I'd get rid of 2 of the 3 dirt pedals and bring up a different effect like the flanger, delay, comp, phaser, etc. but at the end of the day you have to do what works for you and your band. If you need many flavors of dirt, go for it.

[Sir Edward V]

Originally Posted by anyonefortennis

Love the idea of downsizing but when doing that you have to remove redundancy. If I was you I'd get rid of 2 of the 3 dirt pedals and bring up a different effect like the flanger, delay, comp, phaser, etc. but at the end of the day you have to do what works for you and your band. If you need many flavors of dirt, go for it.

ehhhh 2 dirt pedals and an amp simulator that can distort tastefully enough that people use it as a distortion...

I would get rid of the rust and bring back the fuzz LBM all the way. it all depends on what kind of band you are playing in or what kind of people you are jamming with or just what style you play most I guess haha

I've started jamming with this new drummer and the same old guitar player I've played with for years, and, first of all, it sounds amazing, the drummer is a perfect fit for us, I do not see how jamming could get any better. second I've been using all of my pedals to get different sounds, and it helps to have a variety of distortions as well as other pedals. Right now I have two dirt pedals that are completely different LBM and a TS-5, fuzz and overdrive. to complement I have some octaves, chorus and wah. If the rust and the bass drive are so similar, then get rid of one. I can understand keeping one of those and the sansamp, its more a pre-amp than anything. The phase is cool, blender good, tuner necessary, auto Q is good for some flavor, get a fuzz I say! other modulation can fit the bill as well. like that clone theory, or the BF-2, although you already have a phaser, and those too might be a little too similar to keep them both on such a small board.

My vote goes to fuzz. Chorus is a #2

[OhThePeacock]

Any particular reason for ditching most of the modulation?

[Crabby]

Originally Posted by OhThePeacock

Any particular reason for ditching most of the modulation?

I basically put all the pedals up for sale and this is what I had left. I even sold my Phase90 but bought another one last week as I missed it the most.

I was ok with selling the Boss pedals (DD3 and BF2) as I never used delay when jamming and found I liked phasing more then flanging. I liked the Clone Theory but it was by far the noisiest pedal I had. The MXR Micro amp was also never getting stopmed on.

The Bassballs pretty much just sat there and the Mini Q tron was so sensitive and only really worked with the Punch Factory after it. I really don't need a comp with my Navigator pre amp.

So in the end, I think the consensus is to avoid redundancy when having such a small board and I agree. The Rust Ride will be replaced with a proper filter like the Emma if I can bring myself to spend the coin on one. I may try a fuzz again but the Fulltone gets pretty thick and retains low end. Its the only drive pedal I really can see myself using on a regular basis.

[Unrepresented]

Originally Posted by Crabby

I agree with you all that the Fulltone and Rustride are redundant. My problem is that the RustRide sounds slightly better to my ears although its nowhere near as practical.

You responded to me in the other thread, but wanted to get my two cents in here too.

I A/B'd the Rustride and the Bassdrive before I purchased the latter and the Rustride has a slightly better tone with the major dealbreaker of having a much more pronounced low end loss, and of course not as many options for roughly the same price.

[gillento]

That's the way I set up my SABDDI, too.

No mid suck/scoop there!

[rustynuts]

Originally Posted by Unrepresented

I A/B'd the Rustride and the Bassdrive before I purchased the latter and the Rustride has a slightly better tone with the major dealbreaker of having a much more pronounced low end loss, and of course not as many options for roughly the same price.

Pretty much my experience exactly, save for the fact that I bought both and used them side by side for a week before selling off the Rust Ride. It did have an ever so slightly better tone to it, but lost low end, produced less boost and had fewer options.

[Crabby]

The Rust Ride is so close to being an amazing pedal but as noted above, has a few issues. I still love the tone.

[rustynuts]

Yep. But it's that "so close" part that made me get rid of it....And like I said before, either in this thread or another, I really did want to love that pedal.