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Old 05-22-2010, 12:09 AM
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Ok, when I use echo through sims on the computer it seems like the original note or tone that is played hits in real time(like as soon as you hit it you hear it) plus the note or tone seems to ring out. When using delay it seems like the original note doesn't hit as soon as it's played or get the original note to ring out.

I've googled and searched but haven't seen anything about this. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a way to get the delay to hit immediately(at a slow rate of course)? Also, if this is the case does the same apply to physical pedal effects?

All input appreciated.
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:26 AM
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There's no actual difference between echo and delay. The two words are used interchangeably with regard to effects.

If, while using computer effects, you experience a delay between the time you pluck a note and the first time you hear it, what you are experiencing is called "latency". It has nothing to do with delay effects - you can have latency when using a computer distortion effect or no effects at all when playing through a computer. If you notice latency with one plugin called "delay" and no latency with another plugin called "echo", this has nothing to do with the type of effect, but merely indicates that the one with latency is more taxing on your computer's processing power.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:31 AM
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There's no actual difference between echo and delay. The two words are used interchangeably with regard to effects.

If, while using computer effects, you experience a delay between the time you pluck a note and the first time you hear it, what you are experiencing is called "latency". It has nothing to do with delay effects - you can have latency when using a computer distortion effect or no effects at all when playing through a computer. If you notice latency with one plugin called "delay" and no latency with another plugin called "echo", this has nothing to do with the type of effect, but merely indicates that the one with latency is more taxing on your computer's processing power.

+1. delay and echo are the same, just like envelope filter and auto-wah.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:37 AM
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Initially, auto-wah designated a timecycle based effect like on Boss AW series while envelope filter was triggered by amplitude. Nowadays people tend to use both words for both effects.

As for delay and echo, they always were the same.
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Another idea??? Echo or Delay is an effect that gets added to your original signal. If the blend knob is turned all the way one way you will hear the echo but not the original signal. If the blend knob is turned the other way no echo.
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This is good to know. Never knew they were the same.
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:42 AM
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they are the same, however, I hear echo being used to describe more vintage delay effects and delay is used more with modern digital delays. Ibanez DE7 (Delay/Echo) comes to mind.
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they are the same, however, I hear echo being used to describe more vintage delay effects and delay is used more with modern digital delays. Ibanez DE7 (Delay/Echo) comes to mind.
I think of the two in a similar fashion--Echo being used to describe a subtler, more reverb-sounding effect, and delay being more prominent, with more accent on the repeats.
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Ok, when I use echo through sims on the computer it seems like the original note or tone that is played hits in real time(like as soon as you hit it you hear it) plus the note or tone seems to ring out. When using delay it seems like the original note doesn't hit as soon as it's played or get the original note to ring out.

I've googled and searched but haven't seen anything about this. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a way to get the delay to hit immediately(at a slow rate of course)? Also, if this is the case does the same apply to physical pedal effects?

All input appreciated.
Hi Vooduu,
I think you were talking about ECHO (delay) and REVERB (note or tone seems to ring out). I'm sure you'll find more information on Google.

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Old 05-25-2010, 06:42 PM
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Hi Vooduu,
I think you were talking about ECHO (delay) and REVERB (note or tone seems to ring out). I'm sure you'll find more information on Google.

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No. Echo vs Delay. Was using Vandal plugin and I believe conical was correct about the latency of the different effects. The delay seemed to get more latency than the echo. Not sure why(maybe more of a resource hog), both were run side my side in the same program.
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