Eden WTDI Bass Preamp Club - Page 11

sleepy_monkey · #**201** 01-03-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MuthaFunk

The only problem I can see is how you're going to split the signal up for the sub woofer and two separate mains. The WTDI has one XLR out that could go to one of the mains and a 1/4 " that could feed the sub. Do the powered mains have a signal pass through?

Specifically, I have the EV ELX112P and ELX118P...I will only be using 1 of the ELX112P speakers and the 118P is the sub. The speakers have a built in crossover that will send everything below 100hz to the sub....so I think that is what you are asking?

aryanratulangie · #**202** 01-07-2013, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdog568404

Welcome! Number 29!

Thanks!

Lowactnsatsfctn · #**203** 01-29-2013, 12:31 AM

Im gonna need a number also, But I'll try my best to earn it.

I found another way to tone down the Blue light. Im not a fan of putting tape over them, and I didn't want to open it up and solder a resistor on it (because I didn't have anything over 2.7K)
What I did was slide a small piece of paper under the gold plate and pushed the LED down a little. You will have to loosen the nuts holding the pots on to do this, But its well worth it IMO. Its always very dark where I use mine at, and before this mod, I couldn't even look at it when it was powered up. Now the red light it slightly brighter than the blue

Hardly noticeable and you don't have to worry about it peeling off or leaving sticky residue.

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And A shot in complete darkness. Its almost a perfect match to the red LED this way.

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Thumpin_P · #**204** 01-29-2013, 12:09 PM

^^I like that idea!!! Thanks!!!^^

nickbass5 · #**205** 02-04-2013, 08:36 PM

Heres something I ran across

Bassmann1968 · #**206** 02-04-2013, 08:41 PM

Looks familiar

RadioactiveGuy4 · #**207** 02-05-2013, 12:08 AM

Number please! i got mine last month and now I'm looking for a power amp to run it through.

Thumpin_P · #**208** 02-06-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nickbass5

Heres something I ran across

Thanks for that! Very nifty resource!

liveburning274 · #**209** 02-12-2013, 12:32 PM

Here's mine! Number please!

sleepy_monkey · #**210** 02-15-2013, 09:36 PM

Was going to get one but with the clip issues on active basses I have been reading about I think I have decided against it and going for a Sansamp. Anyone play a Modulus through a WTDI without clipping?

Lowactnsatsfctn · #**211** 02-15-2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy_monkey

Was going to get one but with the clip issues on active basses I have been reading about I think I have decided against it and going for a Sansamp. Anyone play a Modulus through a WTDI without clipping?

I play an active bass with a pretty hot output, and I haven't had any issues with mine. I keep the Gain around 25% and the master around 80%. It will distort if you boost a lot from the Bass or go much higher than that on the levels, but you shouldn't need to. It should run fine going in to return of any amp just fine, but is a little bit weak for driving most power amps.

Its a great pedal IMO

punkjazzben · #**212** 02-16-2013, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy_monkey

Was going to get one but with the clip issues on active basses I have been reading about I think I have decided against it and going for a Sansamp. Anyone play a Modulus through a WTDI without clipping?

Just go easy in the gain (10-11 o'clock for passive, no more than 9 for active) and pull back the volume on your active bass if necessary. It's all about making sure your bass and the preamp gain stage is not running too hot.

Yes, it's input stage is sensitive, but I've successfully pulled a clean Eden tone from this using everything from a passive Fender P to an 18-volt Warwick Thumb. I use it to bypass the preamp on my amp(s), and as a DI straight into the board with no amp, and if you just take the time to learn the do's and don'ts it's really incredible value for money as far as the preamp market goes.

That said, if Eden could pad the input a bit, this little unit might be a bit more popular. I'd like to not have to rely on boosting a power amp so much in order to get volume.

liveburning274 · #**213** 02-16-2013, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy_monkey

Was going to get one but with the clip issues on active basses I have been reading about I think I have decided against it and going for a Sansamp. Anyone play a Modulus through a WTDI without clipping?

I use the WTDI with my Sterling and it sounds fine. There was a recommendation on here to "gain stage" the pedal and it really does work.

Set your master at 50%, gain and compressor off, then begin to add in the gain to tasted until it begins to distort a little. Then begin to raise the compressor to compensate. Then use the master knob to determine your output to your amp or a PA system. I've done both extremes of having the gain and comp at 8 or 9 o'clock for a more uncompressed sound. Or raising both to 12 to give a really full, boomy-type sound. When you work with it this way this pedal really shines. It has made my SBMM sound like a much higher end, refined bass. The bass boost button also is an amazing plus

. But there is some more in this and some of the other WTDI threads about that.

RadioactiveGuy4 · #**214** 02-23-2013, 10:54 PM

I just used my WTDI at a gig last night for the first time. I love it. I had no monitor so I had the volume up pretty high on my amp but it gave a good clean and clear signal to the FOH. In fact after the show the sound guy came up to me and asked what I was running and was shocked to see my little pedal sounding so good. I asked him how hot a signal it was putting to the board and he said that it was perfect. He didn't even have to pad the signal and was able to get a good sound for me unlike the SVT that was being used before I got on stage. WIN!

Jaycephas · #**215** 03-02-2013, 09:30 AM

+1 to the above recommendations for getting good tone from this pre. I've been doing an A/B test verses my 3Leaf Enabler/Diamond Bass Comp using my Sadowsky RV-5 and my Lakland DJ-5 with Audere pre. The WTDI's strength is the distinctive "Eden" tone (based on an A/B with my WT400) - warm, punchy and modern. And the key again is proper management of the gain stage/comp/master on the WTDI.

Since both my active basses have excellent preamps, I run the WTDI flat and have great success. IMO, for the $$, this pre is excellent.

BassBronson · #**216** 03-08-2013, 12:40 AM

Got mine a couple of days ago. Loving it so far. The distortion is a bit annoying. but I've noticed mine only distorts every now and then. Thinking it may be a defective unit...going to put it through its paces for the next couple of days to make sure. But when it does put out a clean sound it's great! Might end up taking the place of my fodera pre.... Number please

tgouh · #**217** 03-11-2013, 10:13 AM

Hi, I've been using EDEN WTDI + Lakland Skyline 44-60 and I was blown away first time I use it.. Just impressive!! Considering the price and the quality, its just like heaven and earth (low price high quality I mean

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Here is my baby:

PS: Can I have a number please?

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Originally Posted by Jaycephas

+1 to the above recommendations for getting good tone from this pre. I've been doing an A/B test verses my 3Leaf Enabler/Diamond Bass Comp using my Sadowsky RV-5 and my Lakland DJ-5 with Audere pre. The WTDI's strength is the distinctive "Eden" tone (based on an A/B with my WT400) - warm, punchy and modern. And the key again is proper management of the gain stage/comp/master on the WTDI.

Since both my active basses have excellent preamps, I run the WTDI flat and have great success. IMO, for the $$, this pre is excellent.

Hi, just curious, what do u think of EDEN WTDI vs 3leaf enabler? Can u describe the difference? Thanks bro!

BassBronson · #**218** 03-11-2013, 11:31 PM

had to return the 1st one I got due to the distortion it was putting out. Got a new unit and it's working perfectly! Also have it powered by my T-rex chameleon so no wall wart for me. loving it!

tgouh · #**219** 03-28-2013, 06:37 AM

Bump for the thread! Anyone got comparison between 3leaf enabler and WTDI? I am really curious.. Thanks!

Lonnybass · #**220** 03-28-2013, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tgouh

Bump for the thread! Anyone got comparison between 3leaf enabler and WTDI? I am really curious.. Thanks!

Yes, I owned an Eden WTDI for a year and a half and just recently replaced it with an Enabler. Both are great units but serve different purposes and have different strengths.

In general, the Eden is much more "flavored" than the Enabler, particulary (at least to my ears) in the way it lends that distinctive Eden zing on the treble side (largely due to the Enhance knob) - every bass you plugs into it gets the Eden tone treatment. Whereas the Enabler is much more about simply bringing out and fattening up the existing tone qualities of the bass, than lending its own distinctive sound on top of it.

The EQ sections have a couple features that are similar and a few that are different between the two. The Eden has a bass boost switch that I never found a good use for (too muddy), whereas the boost switch on the Enabler is huge sounding, big and fat without losing clarity.

I really liked the upper midrange/lower midrange selection on the Eden. The Enabler's midrange switch selection options are somewhat closer together, both useful, but again, it's more of a broad bass enhancer than radical tone shaper.

On the WTDI, I did like adding in a pinch of the "Enhance" knob
and the built-in compressor could be a handy tool for someone looking to add a little basic compression functionality to their setup.

Ultimately, the gain issues and some frustrating customer service experiences with Eden were what ultimately drove me to ditch the WTDI. I just didn't have the patience or interest to find the sweet spot between "pushing a clean signal" and "clipping the input" every time I set up my bass rig at a gig. Enter the Enabler.

On top of what I described above, the Enabler brings a couple additional nifty features beyond the WTDI, or other pedal preamps for that matter.

The Auxiliary Input allows you to plug your Ipod or other musical input source directly into the Enabler - with an independent level control - allowing you to rehearse silently through its built-in headphone amplifier that is as good as anything you'd find in a high-end recording studio. And the gain/output section is blazingly hot and has no problem driving a power amp on its own (with the WTDI I needed to use a clean boost pedal).

I do miss the occasional ZING from the "Enhance" knob on the WTDI. But the Enabler is well worth every penny and your ears will get spoiled real quick after listening to your bass through its headphone system!

Lonnybass