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Old 01-28-2012, 06:21 PM
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Effect that mutes/unmutes with adjustable rate.

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I know there has to be a name for this, but I search and search and cant find it. Any ideas? Im looking for an effect that cuts in and out.
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:23 PM
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EHX Freeze or something.
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:25 PM
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A Tremolo?
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:25 PM
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Yeah, well.. its definatly or something..

You can do it with the freeze but its Quite hard. so I hear
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:26 PM
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A Tremolo?
THATS IT!

EDIT: Watching videos trem seems too much like an echo im looking for something slightly differnt.

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Old 01-28-2012, 06:29 PM
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LFO controlled VCA.
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:34 PM
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LFO controlled VCA.
Low frequency oscillation! thats the name. let me look into options. or is this a joke and their isn;t options? I remember looking into LFO
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:41 PM
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A VCA is an an amplifier circuit that can be controlled by an LFO, which is an oscillator that instead of making a tone, controls the state of an effect, or in this case an amplifier. So if the LFO was a square wave (going between min and max with no between-states), you would get an extremely choppy tremolo effect, or if you used a sine wave you would get a tremolo effect that would be more like turning up and down your volume knob.

Basically that's what a tremolo is. Yes, I make a little funny.

But if you went that route you could control the VCA using CV (control voltage) via a sequencer, and get yourself a tremolo that could do some more complex patterns.
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:43 PM
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a volume pedal? a stutter pedal? what are you looking for?

and how does a tremolo sound too much like an echo? it's just a rapidly pulsing volume, not an echo/delay/repeat
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Stutter is more like it.

Maybe it's because its a gradual increase/decrease, I want instant on off..

Stutter sounds perfect anybody make one?
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Old 01-28-2012, 07:47 PM
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There are several builders who do. It's a fairly simple circuit. The first one that comes to mind is T1M:

[MS/MM] Mini Stutta/Mini Mute « Catalog Products « Shop « T1M EFFECTS

For what it's worth, most (if not all) tremolo pedals have intensity knobs which allow either a rapid on/off/on or a more gradual on/off/on. Also a stutter pedal is going to be a manual effect in the sense that you're going to have to depress the momentary footswitch each time you want the pedal either on or off (depending on how the switch is wired)
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Ah yes so a stutter is manual.. I want adjustable rate.
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Like i alluded to above, a square lfo waveform on a tremolo will give you the instant on/off that you are looking for. Lots of tremolos will give you the ability to switch waveforms for different types of on/off. Some will even have a tap-tempo control instead of having to use a dialed-in rate control.
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You are describing a square-wave tremolo.

A tremolo varies the volume at a constant (adjustable) rate. Tremolos vary in shape - do they gradually turn the volume up and down, or do they cut immediately from 100% to 0% and back?

Some tremolo effects have only one wave shape, but most are adjustable. The Boss TR-2 has a "wave" control that you can adjust from a smooth up/down to the on-off stutter you are after.
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You are describing a square-wave tremolo.

A tremolo varies the volume at a constant (adjustable) rate. Tremolos vary in shape - do they gradually turn the volume up and down, or do they cut immediately from 100% to 0% and back?

Some tremolo effects have only one wave shape, but most are adjustable. The Boss TR-2 has a "wave" control that you can adjust from a smooth up/down to the on-off stutter you are after.
Woah, now I'm confused! I guess it never occurred to me that there was a difference between depth/intensity and wave. I was under the impression that the depth or intensity knob was adjusting the wave form. The more you know!
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this should do the trick
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Old 01-28-2012, 09:07 PM
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Woah, now I'm confused! I guess it never occurred to me that there was a difference between depth/intensity and wave. I was under the impression that the depth or intensity knob was adjusting the wave form. The more you know!
Well, don't assume that manufacturers are consistent in how they name their controls But look at the Boss TR-2, which has the most standard naming convention.

"Rate" is how fast the tremolo effect cycles.

"Depth" refers to the amount of volume the tremolo cuts. At 50%, the tremolo will cut, at most, 50% of the volume. You could also think of Depth as blend between the dry signal, and the wet (cut all the way down to 0%) signal.

"Wave" refers to the nature of the cut. In the case of the Boss TR-2, it blends between a square-wave (instant jump from max to min volume) and a triangle-wave (steady, smooth volume increase/decrease).

Of course, there are an infinite number of wave shapes that could control a tremolo. Common ones include sine wave (rounded up-down curve) and sawtooth wave (steady increase up, instant decrease or vice-versa). Fancy tremolo plug-ins for your computer can do arbitrary wave-shapes.
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There are a lot of tremolos out there that can get that "choppy" stutter type effect as mentioned above. Price range? You say adjustable rate, but would you need tap tempo? I believe the Earthquaker Devices Hummingbird is made largely for people wanting that tremolo stutter type stuff.
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One of the things that I actually like my Line 6 M5 for is tap tempo adjustable note square wave shape tremolo.
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Just to add some more craziness to the discussion:
EarthQuaker Devices

EDIT: My bad, didn't see copperheads post.

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