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Old 12-29-2009, 05:14 PM
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I recently joined a bass duo where I am required to play fretless leads while the other bassist holds down the low end.
What are some effects that I can employ to get a better lead tone? I was thinking delay and chorus or something along that line....
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It all depends on what you're going for. Are you going to be doing Manring-style solos, Wooten-style, Burton-style, Pino-style?

If chorus and delay is your first instinct, then I'm guessing you'll be going for the ambient sound. Reverb also tends to sound nice for ambient fretless. Almost any kind of other modulation would probably work pretty nicely as well.
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When I think lead bass, I think growling, hissing distortion tones.
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Old 12-29-2009, 05:41 PM
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I plan on having a clean tone. As FreaqyFrequency said, I am going for an ambient tone.
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In my experiences a chorus alone can definitely beef up some lead lines. Combine that with a phaser and all of a sudden your tone will be pure liquid goodness. Add a little delay and it`s mm mm good!
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I love pitch modulation on fretless. Nothing beats a wide vibrato to make a melody stand out.
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In my experiences a chorus alone can definitely beef up some lead lines. Combine that with a phaser and all of a sudden your tone will be pure liquid goodness. Add a little delay and it`s mm mm good!
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Another alternative: Octaver. Boss OC-2 and MXR BOD would be good options
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Another alternative: Octaver. Boss OC-2 and MXR BOD would be good options
I was going to suggest an octaver, but then I realized that there's another bass player in this who's holding down the bottom. Ever played two notes simultaneously in the bottom octave of a piano?

'Nuff said.
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What about an octave up pedal or harmonizer?
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If you don't mind me making such a crazy suggestion, why don't you put some piccolo bass strings on your bass? It'll still play like a bass, it'll just be up an octave. It would probably work easier as a lead instrument.

That's not to say you shouldn't look for some effects either. I think it depends on your style of music, but some dirt is always good. Or lots of dirt.
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:28 PM
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Not sure about your effects, but just wanted to say that concept (two basses, one lead, one "bass"-bass) sounds really interesting. You got a myspace or a real website or something?
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We've actually been meaning to put up a website for some time now. I'll PM you with the link when we've created it and put some audio on it.
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If you don't mind me making such a crazy suggestion, why don't you put some piccolo bass strings on your bass? It'll still play like a bass, it'll just be up an octave. It would probably work easier as a lead instrument.

That's not to say you shouldn't look for some effects either. I think it depends on your style of music, but some dirt is always good. Or lots of dirt.
Sounds interesting, how would piccolo string work on a fretless? Also, dirt is not my cup o tea. I prefer clean tone.
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Do whatever's cheapest. It's not like the lead/rhythm bass thing is a money makin machine
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Do whatever's cheapest. It's not like the lead/rhythm bass thing is a money makin machine
Who knows. Maybe we'll end up with a few all-bassist bands one day, with Lou Pearlman's third cousin at the head of it.
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Sounds interesting, how would piccolo string work on a fretless? Also, dirt is not my cup o tea. I prefer clean tone.
I imagine it would work the same as a fretted bass. I'm not really sure how to address that question. But, here's a video to give you an idea of what I talk about (and I mean this in the loosest definition possible)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF4sJHBIYEo

Jeff Schmidt actually posts on TalkBass, although I haven't seen him recently (I don't know if he comes into Effects often). But hopefully this gives you some idea as to the possibilities of piccolo strings.

As for effects, since you don't like dirt, then I would suggest more modulation effects. That video has some flanger about two and a half minutes in. So a flanger might be useful. I'm more of a fan of phasers myself, but I think they work best with a dirty tone.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:08 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI1l_6vOf6s

thats definitely the most "lead bass" thing ive ever heard..

wah wah pedal left on, into a whammy set to +2 octaves, with a volume pedal after it to control swells..
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If you play hard rock and heavy metal, try using distortion with flanger. this combination can give you an eddie van halen sound on bass.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:38 PM
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if you ever get a chance, dig up an defunct australian band called "Pre shrunk".
2 bassists and a drummer. Best execution i've seen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFiO4wZwjOQ

effects wise: delay, wah and a modulation of some form are essential.
after those 3, you can pretty much go nuts with everything else.

probably the biggest thing in my opinion, is to have basses, amps and eq-settings that complement eachother.
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