Effects for a Live Drum and Bass act?

[~kc~]

I have my first rehearsal with my new drum and bass act on friday, im guessing i will need some kind of effects and some hardcore EQ

Im using a Yamaha BB604 through an ashdown MAG300 4x10 combo

Anybody suggest any?

For a basic idea of the sound, youtube "Nerve - prohibited beats" or "Pendulum"

edit: First post

[pbass2]

I've played and recorded a bunch of DnB, and while I use synth bass too(I will take out my crusty, trusty SH101 along with my bass sometimes), the effects I like to have on hand for bass are: a Moogerfooger MF-101 (actually set mostly for just a super resonant rumble rather than any env. wah effect---I like making my p-bass sound like an 808 sometimes a Boss SYB-3 synth pedal(doesn't track great, but not too bad, and gets some really good sounds if you play simply--some very much like my sh-101) and some kinda distortion. I can see how an octaver could be handy too. heck, maybe a delay. I dunno, I think if I had to have just one it would be the MF-101 so I can do that sub-tickling resonant thang . . .

[~kc~]

Thanks for the input, ill look into those

[Foxworthy925]

I think a delay would be a great pedal to use for only bass & drums. Can't go wrong with some kind of disto or od or fuzz either.

[idoru]

One of my favourite things to do for DnB tone is this: Boss OC-2 or OC-3 used to bypass the original tone. Run 100% -1 octave and about 50% -2 octave, this becomes a basic tone to modify. One example is to run chorus after that with everything at 10, and you get an awesome detuned square wave sound a la "Terrorist". You can probably never have enough filters, either - they don't trigger the same without the original tone, but the sound is unique.

Run everything through a bypass/blend to go from clean bass to crazy bass in the same phrase like Roni Size.

[coolrunner989]

I'd say a decent looper would be EXTREMELY handy...

after that, an octaver, chorus and a distortion.

delay or wah if you wanna get trippy

[pbass2]

yeah, and if there's a keys player, turntablist, whatever--somebody else also throwing down some lows, then you can get really creative up high too. But anything goes--I've played bass for one very well-known UK DnB producer (at least he was a pretty big guy in the late 90's) and interestingly what he wanted me to sound like the most was just a regular 'ol bass!
Anyhow, just be careful if you're playing with things like the Mooger or other filters where you can really crank up the resonance---it takes a little getting used to where to set it for what register you're playing in---you can definitely do some speaker damage if things get too crazy . . . .

[Max Roberts]

Originally Posted by Foxworthy925

I think a delay would be a great pedal to use for only bass & drums. Can't go wrong with some kind of disto or od or fuzz either.

I don't think he means just bass and drums... It's probably the dance genre drum 'n' bass.

[Sir Edward V]

Originally Posted by FunkyAssBassMan

I don't think he means just bass and drums... It's probably the dance genre drum 'n' bass.

+1

synth is probably most useful in this catagory, or a low-pass filter like poster #1 described... and don't worry, you don't have to shell out $250 for the moog to get that sound... many other LPFs will do

[Foxworthy925]

Originally Posted by FunkyAssBassMan

I don't think he means just bass and drums... It's probably the dance genre drum 'n' bass.

ooooooooooooooooooh. ok, thanks. new to me.

[bongomania]

We've had some threads on d'n'b sounds in the past, def. worth digging up and reading. Most especially because there was some direct discussion of Nerve and Jojo Meyer (did i get that name right?). Anyway, there were some solid discussions and recommendations for those specific sounds.

[Niff]

mayer, god i love that guy. such a creative drummer.

on a budget, an octave pedal, digitech bass synth wah, ibanez SB7, and the boss syb-3 would be interesting choices for some crazy tones. maybe a wah and a bit of grit as well. one of my favourite combos for dnb is an envelope filter after a wah pedal, combined with a bit of grit at the end and some slides. i love that genre so much.

[assboglin]

Me, I would bring some nasty distortion, perhaps something like a Z Vex Fuzz Factory, a Boss OC-2 suboctaver, and a Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeler. But that's me, you might want to do something different.

[mothman1566]

I'd say the most important FX in Drum N' Bass for an electric would be some sort of chorus to fatten up your sound and an octaver.

A fuzz, envelope filter and delay should be acquired after IMO.

[SnakeAnthony]

Fuzz. And fuzz.

But for real, Fuzz.

To the extent where I almost want my reference of 'clean' in D'n'B to be fuzzed out. I see clean tone in the genre as a form of effect, a time to be subtle, and spacey.

I agree that a chorus is a good for fattening up tone, but for that, I might consider running a chorus in the effects loop of your amp to be set at a subtle level and left as an 'always on' effect. That or do the same thing, but place it in a bypass loop with the fuzz so that both go on and off together.

Then an octave could be helpful, I'd be particularly fond of the EHX POG/HOG series, as those give you near limitless options on octave up and down, all around, etc.

Delay would defiantly be cool for slower moments. Then perhaps another, more intense modulation pedal, aside from the above mentioned chorus. Filters could be cool, but I don't see myself using them much within the context of the genre.

[Dave Muscato]

My band is a jam band; we do some extended drum 'n bass stuff live. I have a Line6 Bass POD xt Live that I use for effects, and I have some cool stuff programmed into it. Mostly, I use drive, octave, and wah. I have some synth-type sounds, too, as well a ring modulator and some crazy, crazy stuff that is a combination of things. I couldn't even tell you what those are; I'd have to check. Mostly, though, I keep it pretty simple - clean, slapping & popping, and just good grooves.

[emjazz]

John Davis from Nerve posts here in the effects forum. Just search for his name. Start with his suggestions and go from there. More importantly, listen to as much music within that genre as you can.

[knobbin]

i recently started a band that is pretty much bass +drums with a little bit of keys or guitar here and there and singing.

www.myspace.com/agpakmum


I'm running a hand made bass(made by me) and a G&L tribute l-200 strung BEAD. For effects i use a Bassballs(always on distortion) into a Q-tron plus( the distortion from the bassballs into the qtron makes some crazy screaming tones) After that i hit up a DOD FX72 bass flanger which is a nice texture to add, and a Memory Lane delay(which is SICK). all this goes into a ampeg SVP-PRO preamp ->crown XTi 1000 poweramp -> ampeg 410hlf.

I really dig this set up because its nice and loud and makes can make alot of wicked noise, which really complements a bass&drum act since theres so much open room to work with.
i recommend experimenting with delay , some sort of distortion or overdrive and an envelope filter, i really dig the way all my pedals work together to make some whacky tones.

[Max Roberts]

Wrong genre

[idoru]

Originally Posted by SnakeAnthony

I agree that a chorus is a good for fattening up tone, but for that, I might consider running a chorus in the effects loop of your amp to be set at a subtle level and left as an 'always on' effect.

If you go for subtle, make sure you get a second one for the total opposite. Ever heard Ray Keith/Renegade "Terrorist"? Detuned square wave tone - piece of cake to do with a Boss OC-2 using only the sub-octaves (no clean) and a chorus with the depth and rate maxed so you sound out of tune.

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