EH Big Muff and BASS Big Muff

[grumpy_dog666]

Has anybody tried these side by side or even used both extensivly?

i've got the Big Muff and wanted to know what the overall difference is. is it basically the same style of muff but doesn't cut out the bottom end as much?

i would try one, but it seems nobody has any instock or can get any till early/mid NEXT YEAR, Australian based.

[rratajski]

Which BMP version do you have?

From the other zillion threads on here where the BBM has been discussed, we know that it's based upon the Green Russian version of the BMP. In addition to the upgraded circuit and smaller footprint, it has a clean blend...so in many people's opinions on the board, it's an upgrade in flexibility.

You can do international shipping to get a BBM.

[Kano2864212]

it also has an extra bass boost option...just buy one, its completely worth it

[grumpy_dog666]

US Big Muff

[slapmutepop]

Originally Posted by rratajski

Which BMP version do you have?

You can do international shipping to get a BBM.

I am also in Australia.
I have always been detered from international ordering of FX pedals due to Australia using a 240V power, which is different to other places.

Not to keen on power converters either. Just plain messy.

Any other Aussies have thoughts on this?

[A.CLAYTON]

Originally Posted by slapmutepop

I am also in Australia.
I have always been detered from international ordering of FX pedals due to Australia using a 240V power, which is different to other places.

Not to keen on power converters either. Just plain messy.

Any other Aussies have thoughts on this?

Currently i'm wondering if i should buy a used BM off Ebay or wait and get the BBM.

[Deluge Of Sound]

I like my Russian Muff more than the BBM, for the record.

[kyral210]

From what people are saying, Bass Big Muff is the way to how. HOWEVER I saw Primal Scream in the summer, and Manny was using a Big Muff NYC.....

[gillento]

Originally Posted by slapmutepop

I am also in Australia.
I have always been detered from international ordering of FX pedals due to Australia using a 240V power, which is different to other places.

Not to keen on power converters either. Just plain messy.

Any other Aussies have thoughts on this?

Well you'll have to use an Aussie 9V powersource anyway...
So this does not apply to pedals

[gibsualdo]

Originally Posted by rratajski

Which BMP version do you have?

From the other zillion threads on here where the BBM has been discussed, we know that it's based upon the Green Russian version of the BMP..

What I'd like to know is, when the BBM is set in "normal" mode, does it still sound a great deal different to the Little Big Muff?

I'm looking for a cheap Muff, just to tie me over until I can afford some more boutique models to test out (such as yr Green Stache). I don't require any kind of dry blend, as my effects chain is already in a blended loop with my dry signal. I'm stuck wondering which to get of the BBM and LBM for this purpose.

If the LBM would cut it, when blended with my dry signal, that'd be very handy since I could use it on guitar as well.

EDIT: Okay, nevermind upon searching I've just read a post from Mystic Boo, where he claims the BBM is far more friendlier with active basses than the LBM. I've found him to be quite an informative and helpful guy in the past and I respect his opinion, so I'm going to go with the BBM and hope it plays nice enough with my 18V bass.

Out of interest, how does the Green Stache fair with high output actives?

[runmikeyrun]

I haven't liked any current production Muff on bass (NYC OR USSR) only the green russian one. The new ones are either buzzy, shrill, gatey, or thin but never good for bass. If the BBM is based on the green russian, then that's the one to go for.

[tapp01]

[quote=gibsualdo;6889012]

If the LBM would cut it, when blended with my dry signal, that'd be very handy since I could use it on guitar as well.

From what I've heard the BBM is very guitar friendly, which would suit your needs.

[gibsualdo]

Cool, a fuzz pedal's gonna have to wait a bit now though. While looking for the cheapest BBM, I came across the the Ashdown James Lomenzo Hyper Drive (not a fuzz I know), and was overcome by a monumental wave of GAS

[JanusZarate]

Originally Posted by gillento

Well you'll have to use an Aussie 9V powersource anyway...
So this does not apply to pedals

+1 - plus, it also can run on a 9V battery, if you're desperate.

It doesn't use any out-of-the-ordinary power supply. Just a Boss-standard one.

Originally Posted by gibsualdo

What I'd like to know is, when the BBM is set in "normal" mode, does it still sound a great deal different to the Little Big Muff?

IMO, not a huge deal different, but you'll certainly notice it. It's grittier and bassier than the LBM, generally, but its Tone and Sustain knobs are nowhere near as extreme as they are on the LBM.

I wasn't nuts about the Bass Boost mode... it wasn't useful to me. The Dry mode is cool, though, but you can't get a mix at unity gain if you want more fuzz than clean. Beyond 50/50, it gets LOUD.

IMO, if you're going to go beyond a 50/50 mix, you probably want to be using Normal mode, anyway.

I haven't tried a BBM on guitar, but I don't see why it wouldn't sound great. The lower gain could be a turn-off, but it still gets pretty heavy.

Originally Posted by gibsualdo

EDIT: Okay, nevermind upon searching I've just read a post from Mystic Boo, where he claims the BBM is far more friendlier with active basses than the LBM. I've found him to be quite an informative and helpful guy in the past and I respect his opinion, so I'm going to go with the BBM and hope it plays nice enough with my 18V bass.

I could induce some chaotic breakup/behavior issues with a cranked LBM. I always had to go easy on the gain, especially on low tone settings, with the LBM and a hot active bass. I can't seem to induce that with the BBM, although I only tested it with 9V actives. My Stingray was my primary test weapon, and although it has a fairly hot output, it didn't produce anything weird, even when the gain was cranked.

I consider that a good thing in most cases, noisemaking aside.

[bassguitarded]

i recommend you swing by bassfuzz.com and go through a couple of his reviews... you should be able to pick one after that...i own a BBM and love it! it sounds a little funny sometimes with my active p bass but super awesome with my active jazz..

[gibsualdo]

Originally Posted by MysticBoo

IMO, not a huge deal different, but you'll certainly notice it. It's grittier and bassier than the LBM, generally, but its Tone and Sustain knobs are nowhere near as extreme as they are on the LBM.

I wasn't nuts about the Bass Boost mode... it wasn't useful to me. The Dry mode is cool, though, but you can't get a mix at unity gain if you want more fuzz than clean. Beyond 50/50, it gets LOUD.

IMO, if you're going to go beyond a 50/50 mix, you probably want to be using Normal mode, anyway.

I haven't tried a BBM on guitar, but I don't see why it wouldn't sound great. The lower gain could be a turn-off, but it still gets pretty heavy.



I could induce some chaotic breakup/behavior issues with a cranked LBM. I always had to go easy on the gain, especially on low tone settings, with the LBM and a hot active bass. I can't seem to induce that with the BBM, although I only tested it with 9V actives. My Stingray was my primary test weapon, and although it has a fairly hot output, it didn't produce anything weird, even when the gain was cranked.

I consider that a good thing in most cases, noisemaking aside.

Cool, thanks for sharing your experiences Boo. The BBM, especially at it's low price, is pretty much at the top of my GAS list right now. I expect it to make an apperance on my pedalboard, in the very near future

[JanusZarate]

On a related note, my brother has used my MXR Blowtorch on guitar before. It's actually pretty cool in a way I didn't expect. It evokes a more "industrial" distortion sound than your typical distortion pedal. And actually, it really doesn't sound much at all like a typical fuzz when used with guitar - hence, my use of the word "distortion."

I wouldn't hesitate to experiment a bass-specific distortion or fuzz pedal on guitar. The results can surprise you.