EH Freeze and echo?

[jay tay]

Hi there, I've just got a new electro harmonix freeze pedal, and I am wanting to use it with some echo. The thing is I only want the echo to effect the sustained notes from the freeze, and not the notes I play over it... I have done this on a dub track in the studio, by simply overdubbing the bass line, how would I get the same affect live, I am relatively new to effects, so any suggestions will be most appreciated, I don't mind experimenting, but I'm at a complete loss!

I have a feeling that it's not going to work, but I'll give anything a go... well almost anything!

[behndy]

you'd have to split the signal somehow. might have to bi-amp too? or at least run a splitter at the end of two bypass loops?

you could have a bypass loop with the Freeze -> Echo, play the note you want, than switch out of that loop and play over it. i THINK that would work. there might be a more elegant way to do it though.

[MonsterBass101]

Here is one way. Have 1 AB Splitter and one ABY Switch. Have one cable running straight from the AB to the ABY. Then have the other path with the freeze. Keep the ABY switcher on both paths, and when you switch to the freeze path you can play a note and switch back to play without that note.

Make Sense?

[WhiteNinja]

Or you can have your Freeze as the last pedal in your chain (or anywhere behind the Reverb).

1) Engage Reverb
2) Play note/chord
3) Hold note/chord with the Freeze
4) Disengage Reverb
5) Play your overdub
6) ???
7) Profit!

That's how I would do it without a splitter or switch.

[behndy]

i think he'd still need another split or loop.

'cause he wants a sustained note from the Freeze that is the ONLY thing running into a delay, then a separate channel that he can play over the top of that.

i THINK you'd need a couple bypass loops with splitters for that? or the ABY splitter might work if there's one before the Freeze and after the delay? i think.

[MonsterBass101]

Originally Posted by behndy

i think he'd still need another split or loop.

'cause he wants a sustained note from the Freeze that is the ONLY thing running into a delay, then a separate channel that he can play over the top of that.

i THINK you'd need a couple bypass loops with splitters for that? or the ABY splitter might work if there's one before the Freeze and after the delay? i think.

That will work. Just keep the second ABY on Y and switch between A and B on the first one.

[jay tay]

Originally Posted by WhiteNinja

Or you can have your Freeze as the last pedal in your chain (or anywhere behind the Reverb).

1) Engage Reverb
2) Play note/chord
3) Hold note/chord with the Freeze
4) Disengage Reverb
5) Play your overdub
6) ???
7) Profit!

That's how I would do it without a splitter or switch.

Yeah this is what I thought, but when I tried this the freeze only holds the signal going through it at the time you press the switch, so you don't actually get the reverb on the note, you just get a strange drone noise.

Thanks for the tip!

[jay tay]

Thanks for all the advise, I'm going to try a bypass loop with a switch when I get back home!

[WhiteNinja]

Originally Posted by jay tay

Yeah this is what I thought, but when I tried this the freeze only holds the signal going through it at the time you press the switch, so you don't actually get the reverb on the note, you just get a strange drone noise.

Thanks for the tip!

Right, of course. It can't work because of the decay time of the Reverb. Since the freeze only holds a very very short note, it won't catch the Reverb decay. Logical.

That means you must have the Freeze in front of the Reverb. So yeah, the only way to do that is with the loop.

[jay tay]

Hi, I just tried it with the bypass loop and switch, and it works, thanks for the advice, all I have to do know is practice switching between the loops, without spoiling the groove.

Thanks again everyone!

[behndy]

nice one! glad it worked out for you!

[Robertron]

Would you be able to get a sound clip of what this sounds like? I'm very curious and can't really hear it in my head

[jay tay]

I'm working away at the moment, but I'll try and post something when I get back... not sure when that will be though.