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07-26-2010, 04:46 PM
|  | Bartle doo? | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Missing Mountains | | | EHX Steel Leather problem need tech help
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Searched the forum and didn't find my answer. Forgive me if it's there, I couldn't find it.
My EHX Steel Leather works as it is supposed to when I plug bass directly into it and the pedal straight into the amp. However, when I put the pedal into the pedal train, nothing happens.
While in the pedal train, the dry signal will bypass through (althought the LED stays on), but when I click on the effect, everything goes silent (LED still on).
I've tried putting the pedal at the begining, middle and end of the train and all have the same effect. Pedal by itself works perfectly. Pedal doesn't play with others.
Thanks for the help TB Tech gurus!
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Originally Posted by YCBass  Fortunately the smell is only there when you actually put your face close to the holes, otherwise you wouldn't notice it in playing position... |
Fuzzrocious #2 / B1S #2 / S.A.S.S. #15 / WA #37
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07-26-2010, 04:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Portland, OR | | | Is the power supply different when you use it alone versus in a chain? Can you think of any other differences in your setups?
My first gut instinct is that your power supply, power jack, or power connection is not functioning as it should. |
07-26-2010, 07:03 PM
| | Bartle doo? | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Missing Mountains | | | I use the proper voltage and polarity (9v with center pin negative). In fact, I leave it plugged in when I switch it in and out of the train. Works fine as the only effect in line between the bass and the amp. It gets goofy in the pedal train.
I was sure to check that first and any other thing I could think of to eliminate operator error (making sure input was bass and output was amp). Please, all advice welcome. Any one have experience with this pedal?
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Originally Posted by YCBass Fortunately the smell is only there when you actually put your face close to the holes, otherwise you wouldn't notice it in playing position... |
Fuzzrocious #2 / B1S #2 / S.A.S.S. #15 / WA #37
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07-26-2010, 07:04 PM
| | Bartle doo? | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Missing Mountains | | | ....also, all the other pedals in the train work fine without the steel leather plugged in sequence. However, nothing works when the steel leather is in the train.
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Originally Posted by YCBass Fortunately the smell is only there when you actually put your face close to the holes, otherwise you wouldn't notice it in playing position... |
Fuzzrocious #2 / B1S #2 / S.A.S.S. #15 / WA #37
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07-26-2010, 07:19 PM
|  | OVNIFX
EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | Are you 100% positive that all of your pedals are center-negative powered? |
07-26-2010, 07:26 PM
| | Bartle doo? | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Missing Mountains | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bongomania Are you 100% positive that all of your pedals are center-negative powered? |
Yeap. They all worked just fine without the EHX steel in there. I double check before I plug them into the power supply. I also tried using just the battery in the EHX Steel and it gave the same results 
My bass is active... Maybe that goofs things up in the chain, but not enough when the pedal is solo?
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Originally Posted by YCBass Fortunately the smell is only there when you actually put your face close to the holes, otherwise you wouldn't notice it in playing position... |
Fuzzrocious #2 / B1S #2 / S.A.S.S. #15 / WA #37
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07-26-2010, 07:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Portland, OR | | | From the manual:
IMPORTANT PLEASE READ: The Steel Leather will not work with the same power adaptor that is daisy chained to other pedals in its signal chain. Please run the Steel Leather off of its own power adapter or a battery. The battery will last a long time. |
07-26-2010, 07:51 PM
|  | Jack Grundle and Chad Choad
Builder for FUZZROCIOUS PEDALS | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ | | It's those darn EHX pedals  .
They need their own regulated supply like on a voodoo lab pp2, etc. |
07-26-2010, 07:56 PM
| | Bartle doo? | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Missing Mountains | | | I have a Dunlop DC Power Brick. I didn't think it was a Daisy chain style supply. Am I wrong?
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Originally Posted by YCBass Fortunately the smell is only there when you actually put your face close to the holes, otherwise you wouldn't notice it in playing position... |
Fuzzrocious #2 / B1S #2 / S.A.S.S. #15 / WA #37
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07-26-2010, 07:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Portland, OR | | | Dunlop Brick doesn't have isolated outputs, which pretty much makes it like a daisy chain. TRex fuel tank JR, BBE SupaCharger, VooDoo Labs PP2+, or just a dedicated one spot will do you.
Last edited by cheapbasslovin : 07-26-2010 at 08:02 PM.
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07-26-2010, 08:00 PM
| | OVNIFX
EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | It's seriously just a daisy chain in a box, with a couple extra resistors. The box is cosmetic. |
07-26-2010, 08:08 PM
| | Bartle doo? | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Missing Mountains | | | Awesome help guys. Really appriciate it. When I get back home, I'll throw the battery back in with no DC Brick hook up to see if I get a better result. Your answers make sense. I'll be sure to post the result if any of you care to know.
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Originally Posted by YCBass Fortunately the smell is only there when you actually put your face close to the holes, otherwise you wouldn't notice it in playing position... |
Fuzzrocious #2 / B1S #2 / S.A.S.S. #15 / WA #37
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07-27-2010, 03:12 AM
| | Bartle doo? | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Missing Mountains | | You guys were right! Even though power supplied was correct and polarity was correct, the EHX is greedy and doesn't want it's power from a daisy chain. I knew that from reading the manual, but I thought my DC Power Brick wasn't that. Now I know, thanks Bongomania, cheapbasslovin and Ry!
Put the battery back in, left the powersupply off (not even plugged into the jack. Last time I unplugged it from the brick) and the pedal worked like a charm in the chain. Glad I don't have a dud... bummed I can't plug it into my power supply
Oh well, I'll soon forget about it when my next toy arrives 8)
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Originally Posted by YCBass Fortunately the smell is only there when you actually put your face close to the holes, otherwise you wouldn't notice it in playing position... |
Fuzzrocious #2 / B1S #2 / S.A.S.S. #15 / WA #37
Last edited by Plays_For_Dog : 07-27-2010 at 03:17 AM.
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07-27-2010, 05:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia | | | in situations like this it always invloves the power. there really is no other variable.
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07-27-2010, 06:17 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wales | | does anyone know why this pedal has that warning? I got it a couple of months ago, read the warning and felt a little bit miffed.
However, I did plug it into my chain and it works fine (yay!!!).  |
07-27-2010, 12:58 PM
| | Bartle doo? | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Missing Mountains | | | I noticed that the pedal worked fine on the power supply but when it was the only thing in the loop of my bass and amp. Once I put it in chain with the other pedals (even though all were on the power supply together through the whole ordeal) that the pedal would die out. I'm no guru, obviously, but thinking on it all night last night, I believe the added resistance of the bass signal coming through the pedal train depleted the Steel Leather of what it needed to push the effect out.
EHX is behind the power curve in the power design of their pedals. They know us consumers are going to be placing their products in line with other pedals and various do-dads that tickle our fancy. Why can't they engineer their pedals the same way the rest of the market does to play nice with others. I have nine other pedals currently on my board that all suck juice from the DC Brick no problem. For a mass production pedal, I'm a little disappointed.
Nonetheless, I will simply keep a battery in the little guy and rock it's face off. Soon to forget and quick to move on and adapt.
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Originally Posted by YCBass Fortunately the smell is only there when you actually put your face close to the holes, otherwise you wouldn't notice it in playing position... |
Fuzzrocious #2 / B1S #2 / S.A.S.S. #15 / WA #37
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04-12-2011, 08:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Logan, Utah | | | So i got this pedal without reading this thread beforehand, and have the same chaining issue. I emailed them and they told me that it was an issue with earlier pedals but have since been fixed on the more recent ones. They also said that they would have to replace the whole board, couldnt trade me the old model for a new model, and modifications cannot be done to fix this issue.
I recently got a korg pitchblack (im loving it) and it has a power out. Has anyone had experience with using the power out on a tuner to power this pedal? Did it run into the same issues as daisy chaining or did it fix the issue? If I cant figure it out without buying heaps of batteries or another supply i think ill just sell it and get a vt bass... | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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