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05-04-2012, 09:47 PM
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Endorsing Artist, D'addario Strings | | Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Outside Pittsburgh, PA | | | Envelope filter...
If you were to have one on your board for maximum versatility in the studio and stage, what would it be? Aguilar Filter Twin, MXR Auto Q, something else? I have a Q-Tron and a Bass Balls, and just ordered a Guyatone Bass Wah Rocker, (love them little guys) and they're all cool and will likely always remain in my "session trunk," but I'm looking for something that is a little more utilitarian to be velcroed to my board for immediate inspiration.
Akai Deep Impact is another I've always wanted, but they're pricey and not real reliable as I understand. And the Moogerfooger is cool too, but GIANT.
Whatcha think guys?
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05-04-2012, 09:51 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Gainesville,FL | | | Source Audio Bass Envelope Filter Pro. It is ugly, it is digital, it is powerful. 6 presets are great for stage use. You can use an LFO to control the filter. It has 23 different types of filter, okay maybe 2 are really a phaser. A solid pedal indeed. |
05-05-2012, 02:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Leeds, UK | | | My favourite two I've had are the 3Leaf Proton and the IE Xerograph deluxe. The Proton is a great sounding, organic, no nonsense copy of the Mutron, whereas the Xerograph is a much more tweakable and modern take on the filter. They are two very good analog options.
Alternatively I would go for the 3Leaf Groove Regulator (1 or 2) which is a good copy of the Meatball (I think?). Very versatile filter, does vintage all the way through to modern sounds.
All three pedals I have mentioned sound incredible on Bass, no lowend loss and are (drum roll please) TRUE BYPASS (if that really bothers you). |
05-05-2012, 03:14 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California | | | i never really clicked with Spencer!'s pedz. super nice quality, just never did it for me.
Xero for the deepest most organic dubby stuff while still being crazy versatile, BEF Pro if you can get past the horrific looks and ignore that it's digital and just play it. a HUGE range of sounds, and 6 save spots ROKKS. |
05-05-2012, 06:20 AM
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Public Relations: PJB | Staff Writer: BMM, Seymour Duncan | See Bio | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI | | | I just got an old DOD FX-25B (or whatever the model is) envelope filter in a trade. It took me a couple of times to figure out the nuances of thi thing, but I get it now and I dig it! |
05-05-2012, 06:41 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Highland, CA (Inland Empire) | | | The best filter (at least for me) after trying A LOT of filters is/was: 3-Leaf Audio Groove Regulator MK-I. I use a Boss LS-2 and keep all of my fuzz/octave in there and it really kills. Bubbly....funky....stanky....subtle.....and all without blowing up your speakers! |
05-05-2012, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Bozek  If you were to have one on your board for maximum versatility in the studio and stage, what would it be? | For me, the MXR BEF was it after owning a few filters and wahs (Bassballs among them). It sounds great with my set-up, doesn't use a lot of real estate on my small pedalboard and its relatively easy to find band-usable settings (IMO). It killed my filter GAS.
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05-05-2012, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by behndy BEF Pro if you can get past the horrific looks and ignore that it's digital and just play it. a HUGE range of sounds, and 6 save spots ROKKS. | And one of the presets is based on the Groove Regulator  |
05-05-2012, 09:58 AM
| | | | The Iron Ether Xerograph Deluxe has a knob or a switch for everything you would want to control, and it sounds awesome.
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05-05-2012, 09:59 AM
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05-05-2012, 08:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: My bass-ment | | | If you like the Q-Tron and Bassballs and you must have only one pedal, why not the Q-Balls? |
05-05-2012, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaPhoenix Source Audio Bass Envelope Filter Pro. It is ugly, it is digital, it is powerful. 6 presets are great for stage use. You can use an LFO to control the filter. It has 23 different types of filter, okay maybe 2 are really a phaser. A solid pedal indeed. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Floyd Eye SA BEF | Source Audio Bass Envelop Filter. Lots of stuff, I bought it mostly for Hot Hands goodness! |
05-05-2012, 08:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: phoenix az | | | My favorite is the Aguilar dual filter! |
05-05-2012, 09:00 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SF (North) Bay Area | | Quote:
Originally Posted by behndy i never really clicked with Spencer!'s pedz. super nice quality, just never did it for me.
Xero for the deepest most organic dubby stuff while still being crazy versatile, BEF Pro if you can get past the horrific looks and ignore that it's digital and just play it. a HUGE range of sounds, and 6 save spots ROKKS. | +1 for the Xero as most versatile. But, unlike Ben, I dig the proton and have both on my board. I use the proton for Bill Laswell style filtered walking bass lines and the Xero for dub style and synth bass. |
05-05-2012, 09:09 PM
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05-05-2012, 09:17 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Toms River,NJ | | | BIG fan of the Groove Regulator 2....just a great TONE and all the practical control that you'd ever need...IMO/IME |
05-05-2012, 10:05 PM
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President, Source Audio | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Woburn, MA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Spencer! And one of the presets is based on the Groove Regulator | Imitation = flattery  GR gets the SA thumbs up.
By the way, we are not the only digital filter pedal on this thread......... |
05-06-2012, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rsmith601 By the way, we are not the only digital filter pedal on this thread......... | Argh the whole digital/analog debate is almost as irritating as the whole IT MUST BE TRUE BYPASS bandwagon.
In my opinion, there's nothing inherently wrong with digital pedals, especially if they afford you a much more versatile design and offer features which analog pedals can't (e.g. presets). FWIW I'm a big fan of your Source Audio designs, especially the soundblox 2 range. Good shout on going for aluminium casing as well . |
05-06-2012, 06:26 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Gainesville,FL | | | With a digital interface analog pedals can have presets |
05-06-2012, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Spencer! And one of the presets is based on the Groove Regulator | of course! dood, you build some DELICIOUS stuff. i just never totally bonded with the Proton and GR1 i had. i suck at funk stuff, so i end up liking the more synthy take on filters opening and closing then envelope triggered auto filter stuff. the Xero, BEF Pro and Brain Freeze with an expression pedal (or HH, SO much fun) end up giving me the happy pants lately.
i'm still kinda bummed you abandoned that synth pedal project. that thing sounded HAWT. Quote:
Originally Posted by EskimoBassist Argh the whole digital/analog debate is almost as irritating as the whole IT MUST BE TRUE BYPASS bandwagon.
In my opinion, there's nothing inherently wrong with digital pedals, especially if they afford you a much more versatile design and offer features which analog pedals can't (e.g. presets). FWIW I'm a big fan of your Source Audio designs, especially the soundblox 2 range. Good shout on going for aluminium casing as well . | +a googol. that idea is just silly. LISTEN to the box in question, then decide if you like it. i use the M9, TimeLine, BEF Pro a LOT. because they sound great. just picked up the EQD Organizer which is pure SAUCE. and all the extra options with digital like save spots and tap tempo? yesh please.
it's not a prejudice against digital, but fuzz and dirt is where i usually want analog. it's more pleasing to my ears to go the analog route for dirt than digital. just a different kind of clipping. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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