Envelope Filter?

[JuanBass0012]

MXR Bass

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by Bassist30

Wow so you think its more on the lines of innovative. Interesting, therefore we look very forward to its development phases. Do you personally know about when it will be released, in other words what's the companies target release date. Anything you know about the price. Looks well built so i take it it may not be on the cheap side of your pockets.

Innovative as far as sound and versatility. It should be in production by summer of 2013. The pedal is USA made(for those to whom it matters) and it is definitely well built and what I think will be affordable in a logical way.



From the two clips I posted with NAMM show noise in the background what do you think of the pedals sound?




Like any pedal some players will like it and some wont but I do think that it will be a very popular envelope pedal for bass players(and guitarists).

[willsellout]

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

Thank you and thanks for understanding.

The Envelope filter in the clip,so far is like no other envelope on the market but I think once it hit's the market there will be companies doing their own versions.

It doesn't sound like it does anything unique. The sounds coming out of that box could be had by quite a few filters already on the market. What makes it special?

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by willsellout

It doesn't sound like it does anything unique. The sounds coming out of that box could be had by quite a few filters already on the market. What makes it special?

With all due respect, obviously you didn't listen with attentive ears to the clips, especially clip one.


I will not tell you what makes it sound different at this point but I will suggest that maybe if you haven't, listen with headphones on,

I shouldn't have to tell any one what makes this envelope pedal sound different, their ears should be the key to hearing the difference.


And some of the sounds that comes out of this pedal is not in any envelope filter on the market at this point.

[willsellout]

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

With all due respect, obviously you didn't listen with attentive ears to the clips, especially clip one.


I will not tell you what makes it sound different at this point but I will suggest that maybe if you haven't, listen with headphones on,

I shouldn't have to tell any one what makes this envelope pedal sound different, their ears should be the key to hearing the difference.


And some of the sounds that comes out of this pedal is not in any envelope filter on the market at this point.

It's almost always the people that say "with all due respect" that are about to insult you. Classy as always.

The only problem is I did listen..headphones and all! It's not my ears, the pedal, using those videos as my only source of information, sounds more similar than dissimilar to a dozen other pedals. Honestly though, with the amount of filters on the market, there's really not much that hasn't been done.

But since you are the king of vague insinuations, I'll throw my thoughts out there on what I see on the pedal in the video:

-You've got 5 knobs and a switch. Unless one of those knobs is "print money", they are probably pretty standard controls with an up/down switch
-You've got 3 jacks on the top: Input, output, and most likely an expression pedal input.

So what makes this special? You spent time with it, what does it do that others don't?

[topo morto]

To be fair it's quite difficult to pick much out on those videos - can't really hear any bass and there's a lot of background noise.

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by willsellout

It's almost always the people that say "with all due respect" that are about to insult you. Classy as always.

Where did I insult you?

Originally Posted by willsellout

The only problem is I did listen..headphones and all! It's not my ears, the pedal, using those videos as my only source of information, sounds more similar than dissimilar to a dozen other pedals.

Well of course there is a similarity, if there wasn't it wouldn't fall in the envelope filter catorgory.

Originally Posted by willsellout

Honestly though, with the amount of filters on the market, there's really not much that hasn't been done.

Can you give me a few examples of what hasn't been done in regards to envelope filters?

Originally Posted by willsellout

But since you are the king of vague insinuations, I'll throw my thoughts out there on what I see on the pedal in the video:

-You've got 5 knobs and a switch. Unless one of those knobs is "print money", they are probably pretty standard controls with an up/down switch
-You've got 3 jacks on the top: Input, output, and most likely an expression pedal input.

What are standard controls on a envelope filter to and for you?

Originally Posted by willsellout

So what makes this special? You spent time with it, what does it do that others don't?

Patience, just have a little.

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by topo morto

To be fair it's quite difficult to pick much out on those videos - can't really hear any bass and there's a lot of background noise.

I agree but with experienced ears some should be able to make something out of it.

[avvie]

Shifting the subject a little, but...
A friend of mine is wanting to get that Mooer Funky Monkey filter. Part of the attraction is the size and part of it the price. The demo video is awful and makes it sound like a bad phaser.
Has anyone here used one?
Generally I like Mooer stuff and their Bassballs clone sounds pretty good but I can't get behind the FM and that may be due to their lousy attempt at a demo.

[topo morto]

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

I agree but with experienced ears some should be able to make something out of it.

I think most people who are experienced at listening learn not to trust their ears too much, too soon - they are the most deceitful of the senses!

It sounded to me like it was maybe only being triggered by / effecting the higher notes ..? (which is something I often set up my effects to do) But hard to tell without hearing the bass!

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by topo morto

I think most people who are experienced at listening learn not to trust their ears too much, too soon - they are the most deceitful of the senses!

I agree and this is a situation where willsellout's ear may be deceiving him but then again it may just be to much background noise that's throwing him off.

[Bassist30]

The thumps sounded like thumps while the upper tones sounded envelopish. Also the snaps were clear so thre is a frequency thing going on. but if Im wrong Im wrong. It is youtube and I did hear something to that effect. I did like it as it did sound good. I hope it becomes available in stores to try rather than order and hope you like it. But I did like what I heard. Are you a consultant to it (jauqo)?

[chumbo73]

Got mu MXR M82 a week ago and still looking for my settings. I thought it was more of a plug and play pedal but it has a lot of different sounds, I like it.

[Swift713]

Hard to hear what's going on there but the first clip sounded very reverb esque.

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by Bassist30

The thumps sounded like thumps while the upper tones sounded envelopish. but if Im wrong Im wrong.

Aspects of what you heard are definitely there and part of that is how I had it set and how I was playing the bass.

Originally Posted by Bassist30

It is youtube and I did hear something to that effect. I did like it as it did sound good.

Your response is proof that every one hears something different and that is how it should be.

Originally Posted by Bassist30

I hope it becomes available in stores to try rather than order and hope you like it. But I did like what I heard.

And yes it will be available in stores.

[irbass]

There's a lot of good envelope filters out there.
many of them are listed on this post.
But you should go with MXR, i don't have any pedals yet but I'll build my
pedalboard soon, and I've been looking around and i noticed
the MXR are trying to look at bass player's desires.
Other company's do a lot stuff to guitar player's and then they say
you can use that with bass too, works fine.This not fair.

This is why my vote go to MXR, and they have really nice stuff for bass player's

Source audio env. filters are good stuff too.

Good Luck

[Bassist30]

Again I did hear snaps to. So its definitely on my radar. About what price? ahhhh the old clean and wet sound

[topo morto]

Originally Posted by irbass

Other company's do a lot stuff to guitar player's and then they say
you can use that with bass too, works fine.This not fair.

+1

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by Bassist30

Again I did hear snaps to. So its definitely on my radar. About what price?

Can't say at this moment.

[cheapbasslovin]

lulz