Envelope Filter clips?

[Kwesi]

So I'm really trying to find "the perfect filter" for me and I've gone through one and I'm trying another out currently. The first was a EHX Q-tron+ XO which could produce some great tones but was really tough to control for me. I fee like if I played passive basses the EHX would've been amazing but all of my basses are active (2 18V and 2 9V) and it feels like the pedal peaks out before the filter actually has a chance to affect the signal.

I'm trying out a 3Leaf Groove Regulator right now and I love how easy it is to get sweet sounds from it and it's super tweakable. The only thing I don't like about it is that it can't get nearly as wet as I would like.

My idea of wet is what I've been hearing in Uriah Duffy's clips of him playing of the soon to be released MXR M28 Bass Envelope Filter. That would be absolutely perfect for me if it had both up and down filter settings but it only has up. I'm still thinking about it though.

I'd love to have a filter that can go up and down and be as wet or dry as I want it to be and I'm just not sure where too look. I've eyeballing the Subdecay Prometheus but I have yet to hear any clips of it on bass. Aside from that and the MXR M28 I'm not sure what else to look at to find what I'm after. Does anyone have clips of any filters they'd like to suggest? I'm open to pretty much anything so long as it's not too much above $200.

[RickenBoogie]

Kinda tricky, since most of the "better" filters would be over that budget. Especially if you want it to go "both ways", so to speak. First thing that came to mind is the Moog LPF.

[Jared Lash]

Originally Posted by RickenBoogie

Kinda tricky, since most of the "better" filters would be over that budget. Especially if you want it to go "both ways", so to speak. First thing that came to mind is the Moog LPF.

The Moog only has an upsweep actually. And while it is fantastic for synthy sweeps with an expression pedal or for dub stuff with the cutoff fixed I don't really recommend it as a straight envelope filter.

The Chunk 00Funk does up and down sweeps and I have some old clips of it in the Wiki. $232 new from Tone Factor but under $200 used. It is a much wilder and synthier filter than the GR though.

Another option is the Maxon AF-9. Small, very wet and organic sounding with up and down sweeps, as well as high and low range as well as bandpass and lowpass modes. (Highpass too but it is all but useless on bass). Very underrated pedal IMO. But unlike the GR it can crank out some big volume spikes. Pretty much every really "wet" filter does.

The MXR looks intriguing. I love bandpass filters and but I think they always sound best with a clean blend, something they've built right in. To me it really depends on how much dry signal it needs to retain the low end. Definitely interested though.

[mitchellprice]

what about engima?

[Funkinthetrunk]

+1 on the Enigma, or even the WMD Super Fatman.

http://www.wmdevices.com/sfmsoundsamples.php

[cheapbasslovin]

Originally Posted by mitchellprice

what about engima?

The thing about the Enigma it that if he's struggling with the controls on the Qtron, he will struggle mightily with an Enigma.

[Funkinthetrunk]

Originally Posted by cheapbasslovin

The thing about the Enigma it that if he's struggling with the controls on the Qtron, he will struggle mightily with an Enigma.

That kinda cold, man.

[Frettage]

I have an Enugna and I love it, but the learning curve is steep. However, that bring said, I'd still recommend it. Just take the time to learn it, and you won't regret it.

[Lazen]

I like the DOD filter. I found some videos of it on youtube if you want to look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-fdn...eature=related (finger)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWzao...eature=related (slap)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aUpp...eature=related (pick)

[cheapbasslovin]

Originally Posted by Funkinthetrunk

That kinda cold, man.

I didn't mean it that way, just that he's looking for something that doesn't get out of hand with a small change in controls. That isn't the Enigma IMO.

[Spencer!]

Originally Posted by Kwesi

I'm trying out a 3Leaf Groove Regulator right now and I love how easy it is to get sweet sounds from it and it's super tweakable. The only thing I don't like about it is that it can't get nearly as wet as I would like.

What serial number is it? There may be something I can do.

[Kwesi]

Originally Posted by cheapbasslovin

I didn't mean it that way, just that he's looking for something that doesn't get out of hand with a small change in controls. That isn't the Enigma IMO.

Lol, I kind of feel the same way. with the Q-tron+ and I assume the Enigma you can't just have the knobs wherever the hell you want and expected a good or usable sound. That kind of simplicity is what I'm after but if a pedal sounds nice enough I'll actually read the manual . After trying handful of EHX pedals I'm starting to think that they're made with passive basses in mind as opposed to active ones. My Bass Micro Synth has worked fine with every bass I've plugged in but the other pedals I've tried seemed much more comfortable with a less hot signal coming in.

Originally Posted by Spencer!

What serial number is it? There may be something I can do.

It's GR202 and thanks for the attention. It's really cool that a pedal maker would go out his way like this . It's definitely a great pedal I'm just putting it through it's paces right now.

[Funkinthetrunk]

Originally Posted by Spencer!

What serial number is it? There may be something I can do.

Hey Spencer...you were supposed to contact me long time ago with your experimentation with different cap and what nots. How's that going?

[jetofuj]

Originally Posted by Spencer!

What serial number is it? There may be something I can do.

Are there different versions or you can mod any for more wetness?

[SMASH]

Chunk Systems Agent 00Funk - lots of clips on their site. I've been thinking of selling my Mark I version (larger, superior) for around $200.

The reason I say the Mark I is superior is because it has the in/outs for control voltage (keying it off via other devices, or vice-versa) and msot importantly the ability to set the volume for dry and effected signal so no matter how radical your sounds are it doesn't mean they'll ruin the mix or blow speakers.

Love my Groove Regulator, so I'm curious about mods too though I don't feel it needs any as I prefer its range of very usable sounds to extremely wet sounds. No serial number on mine as far as I can see. It's about 2 years old.

[LowWay]

I too would be interested in seeing if I could get my GR a little wetter. I don't see a SN either, but it may be under the velcro. I bought it used.

SHould I peel off the velcro? Towards the side with the jacks or away from it?

[Spencer!]

Originally Posted by Funkinthetrunk

Hey Spencer...you were supposed to contact me long time ago with your experimentation with different cap and what nots. How's that going?

I got some pretty good results, but I had to put the whole thing on hold while I'm out in New York. I have a bunch of experiments to try once I start back up in May.

[Spencer!]

Originally Posted by LowWay

I too would be interested in seeing if I could get my GR a little wetter. I don't see a SN either, but it may be under the velcro. I bought it used.

SHould I peel off the velcro? Towards the side with the jacks or away from it?

Serial number is written inside the pedal.

[Spencer!]

Originally Posted by jetofuj

Are there different versions or you can mod any for more wetness?

There's a really simple mod that can be done to older models (serial no. 144 and earlier) that increases the resonance (wetness). Beyond that, there's usually something I can do if someone is unhappy with the sound.

http://3leafaudio.com/rev2_update.pdf

[Funkinthetrunk]

Originally Posted by Spencer!

I got some pretty good results, but I had to put the whole thing on hold while I'm out in New York. I have a bunch of experiments to try once I start back up in May.

I'll hit you back in May. Thanks.