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mmbongo 03-16-2013 11:39 AM

Which envelope filter do you like? Sound samples!
 
Currently testing two popular envelope filters and I'd like to know which sound other folks prefer. To me, this is not a 'one is better', they are just different. To keep it unbiased, I won't reveal which pedals they are yet. You can PM me if you really need to know, though :)

Equipment used:
Warwick Streamer Jazzman
DR Dragon Skin Strings
Hartke Bass Attack straight to my PC
All of these clips are done with a looper, so volume, playing intensity, notes, everything is identical.

Clean tone:
http://chuckamuck.com/sounds/envelope/clean.mp3

Envelope 1:
http://chuckamuck.com/sounds/envelope/env1.mp3

Envelope 2:
http://chuckamuck.com/sounds/envelope/env2.mp3


I'm adding some 'real world' clips, this is exactly how the pedal will be used.
I have some recordings of my band with no bass tracks, so I can add whatever I want!
This is us doing Jimi Thing, with the bass way high in the mix so it can be heard :)

Pedal1:
http://chuckamuck.com/sounds/envelope/jimien1.mp3

Pedal 2:
http://chuckamuck.com/sounds/envelope/jimien2.mp3


New clip update March 17, 12:15am!!

These latest clips may have chosen the winner for me.

Pedal 1:
http://chuckamuck.com/sounds/envelope/choenv1.mp3

Pedal 2:
http://chuckamuck.com/sounds/envelope/choenv2.mp3

bassbrad 03-16-2013 11:57 AM

Envelope 2 is interesting but I don't hear it cutting thru as well as envelope 1

CHILDISHGAMBINO 03-16-2013 12:01 PM

1 sounded a little bit more aggressive. 2 sounded good just a bit mellow sounding for me.

Swift713 03-16-2013 12:11 PM

I think I like #2 better but I couldn't know for sure without playing them myself. The first sounded more vocal, more Framptonesque.

HolmeBass 03-16-2013 12:14 PM

Sounded like #2 had a higher frequency range and a slightly higher sensitivity. I think I prefer #1 as well, would probably be more noticeable in a mix.

RCCollins 03-16-2013 12:23 PM

I didn't really like either of those sounds much

Bassist4Eris 03-16-2013 06:09 PM

I like the first one. The second one sounds kind of farty in the mids, to my ear.

lakedmb 03-16-2013 06:33 PM

Not a huge fan of either, but if I had to choose....number 2.

FilterFunk 03-16-2013 08:47 PM

Is Envelope 1 an MXR BEF, and is Envelope 2 a Source Audio BEF? I think I like Envelope 1 better, especially in the mix.

mmbongo 03-16-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FilterFunk (Post 14042794)
Is Envelope 1 an MXR BEF, and is Envelope 2 a Source Audio BEF? I think I like Envelope 1 better, especially in the mix.

Not telling just yet :)

Poll is currently tied at 10! Interesting!

mmbongo 03-16-2013 10:19 PM

2 new clips added!

Swift713 03-17-2013 09:22 AM

On the second set of clips I thought #1 sounded better although it did seem to loose some low end, #2 was a fatter sound but seemed like it was in danger if getting lost and/or muddy.
On the third set I liked #2 better, it's action was less subtle while #1 sounded somewhat unfocused.

cheapbasslovin 03-17-2013 10:06 AM

I liked number two the whole way for the things you were playing. The smoothness of the songs seemed to call for it more. If the stuff you were playing was more staccato and jumpy I'd probably have gone with number 1.

mmbongo 03-17-2013 10:28 AM

55 voters and it's a 3 way tie! lol!

totallyfrozen 03-17-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmbongo (Post 14040735)
Currently testing two popular envelope filters and I'd like to know which sound other folks prefer. To me, this is not a 'one is better', they are just different...
Envelope 2:
http://chuckamuck.com/sounds/envelope/env2.mp3
Pedal 2:
http://chuckamuck.com/sounds/envelope/jimien2.mp3

New clip update March 17, 12:15am!!

These latest clips may have chosen the winner for me.

Pedal 2:
http://chuckamuck.com/sounds/envelope/choenv2.mp3

I voted #2 in the OP poll.

Flabass 03-17-2013 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCCollins (Post 14040908)
I didn't really like either of those sounds much

+1

mmbongo 03-17-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flabass (Post 14045132)
+1

Of course as always, please feel free to suggest an envelope filter you do like so I can check it out!

willbassyeah 03-17-2013 06:14 PM

I think no 1 is the mxr bef and 2nd is the bassball. Soundwise I prefer 2 to 1.

mmbongo 03-17-2013 06:28 PM

Allright, if you're a big boy and think you're ready to know which pedals these are, click here:

Pedal Reveal!!
http://www.chuckamuck.com/sounds/envelope/reveal.jpg

Swift713 03-17-2013 06:58 PM

Fascinating, neither of those two were on my radar, and they still aren't.


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