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12-25-2011, 04:52 PM
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I recently added a DOD FX25 to my arsenal, however all is not well. It cuts my volume down as soon as it's switched on. The pedal is being run through the FX loop on my GK700RBii and GK RBH115. Any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks! |
12-26-2011, 06:00 AM
|  | Mostly french, not really fried | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere near Montreal, CA | | | I had the same problem with this pedal. I looped it through a Boss LS-2 to compensate volume loss. Although I loved this pedal's tone, I ended up selling it. I think it could be modded.
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12-26-2011, 08:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dallas, TX | | | Don't put instrument level effects in an amp's line level loop. Run that pedal into the front end of the amp, as it was designed.
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12-26-2011, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RickenBoogie  Don't put instrument level effects in an amp's line level loop. Run that pedal into the front end of the amp, as it was designed. | +1.
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12-26-2011, 12:28 PM
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EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | Also, the FX25 has to be "played" and understood--if the signal you feed it is too strong or too weak, it will sound like the effect is quiet. |
12-26-2011, 10:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston, TX | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by RickenBoogie Don't put instrument level effects in an amp's line level loop. Run that pedal into the front end of the amp, as it was designed. | That's the solution! Thanks. For future reference, how does one differentiate between pedals that should or shouldn't go through a loop? |
12-26-2011, 11:55 PM
|  | Holding the Line, Low, Loud & Proud | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leander, TX (outside Austin) | | | As a general rule envelope followers and distortion units should always be at instrument level. Most compressors, modulation and delay units can go either way but may still sound better at instrument level. |
12-27-2011, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Flow That's the solution! Thanks. For future reference, how does one differentiate between pedals that should or shouldn't go through a loop? | Rule #1: If you ask a guitarist this question, they will repeat a mantra that was drilled into them by some older guitarist. Do not make this mistake. Chief reason for their voodoo-like beliefs is that they use their amps for their primary tone effect, so they want certain effects before or after the overdrive/distortion of their amp.
Rule #2: Read the manual for both your amp and whatever specific effect units you're considering. The manual for your amp will tell you whether its loop runs at line level, instrument level, or both. Most of them run at line level, which is what you found with yours by experimenting with the FX25. The manual for the effects will say if it can/should run at line level. Most pedals do not work well at line level, most rack units DO work well at that level; but there are exceptions in both cases. If the effect is a pedal, and it doesn't have a manual, or the manual doesn't say anything about this, then it's pretty safe to assume it is meant to only be run at instrument level.  |
12-27-2011, 02:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston, TX | | | New issue: when run through the instrument level, the post-pedal signal is distorted. |
12-27-2011, 02:34 PM
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12-27-2011, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MSUsousaphone Bongo is like Mr Miyagi. | Daniel-San |
12-27-2011, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Flow New issue: when run through the instrument level, the post-pedal signal is distorted. | Does it seem like the distortion is coming from the input stage of your amp? And is it distorted only on the peaks, or on the quieter sounds too? |
12-27-2011, 08:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston, TX | | | The distortion isn't in the input, and it occurs in the peaks, especially on the low registers. |
12-27-2011, 09:39 PM
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EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | That suggests it's clean but very loud at the output of the FX25, and something after it in the chain is being clipped. |
12-28-2011, 08:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston, TX | | | It's the only pedal in the lineup, so I don't know what could be clipping. |
12-28-2011, 09:07 AM
| | Master of Reality | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Diego, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Flow It's the only pedal in the lineup, so I don't know what could be clipping. | Hint: If there's only an amp left in your chain, it probably has to be your amp. 
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Originally Posted by MSUsousaphone Bongo is like Mr Miyagi. | +1 | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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