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04-07-2009, 10:47 AM
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I saw this from the Oz Bass Forum and thought some of you guys might be interested, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKXlqgHxOjY
I tried it with my Qtron+ and it works on that as well. I see a bunch of sick fun happening at some of my upcoming gigs with appropriate drummers...
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04-08-2009, 01:27 AM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | Cool effect. Would probably have worked better with a more pronounced wah. Seemed too subtle in that demonstration. With a Q-Tron opened up it would sound a lot more noticeable.
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04-08-2009, 03:19 AM
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Accessories Sales Associate, Guitar Center Rancho Cucamonga, CA | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Upland, California | | Sounds pretty awesome! Kind of sample-and-hold-ish, but I can't see myself using this for anything other than fun noises. Not that there's anything wrong with fun noises mind you!  |
04-08-2009, 03:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Perth, WA, Australia | | | One thing I'm thinking of is a simple signal generator to feed a sine wave through a volume pedal triggering the Qtron+ for a truly sick wah.
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04-08-2009, 04:35 AM
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04-08-2009, 04:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Diego | | Cool trick. I think the pollyanna would be great in front of a lowpass with the resonance very low. The pollyanna is very flat and even until the note chokes off, and should make for a nice pulsating (to the beat) wall of bass. Quote:
Originally Posted by phatbass  One thing I'm thinking of is a simple signal generator to feed a sine wave through a volume pedal triggering the Qtron+ for a truly sick wah. | Like an (sine) lfo controlling the frequency cutoff?
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04-08-2009, 05:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England | | | A slow sine would would do the LFO trick too. But a higher pitched one can be used with a volume pedal to produce a wah effect. I learned from speaking to the builder of the WMD Fatman that you can't just use a CV pedal because the envelope follower blocks DC voltage. That might not necessarily be the case with the QTron etc, you might be able to use a cheapo Behringer CV pedal instead of a signal generator + volume pedal. |
04-08-2009, 12:25 PM
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Non-Stereotypical GC Sales/Training Manager...No more selling :( | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NY | | | woot! 3leaf getting some recognition! |
04-08-2009, 01:14 PM
|  | no really, smokemeth&hailsatan | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pueblo, CO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronicle woot! 3leaf getting some recognition! | That's what I thought too.
Oh, and I really love my Qtron+ with the assmaster in the loop. |
04-08-2009, 03:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: York, UK | | | My favourite one is setting up a down-sweep with rhythm guitar providing the envelope. We tried that with my Meatwad last summer for this House-type tune and it sounded ace. |
04-08-2009, 04:37 PM
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04-08-2009, 06:34 PM
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04-08-2009, 07:04 PM
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Designer, 3Leaf Audio | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle / NYC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronicle woot! 3leaf getting some recognition! | Exciting, isn't it? 
They told me the review was slated for the June issue. |
04-08-2009, 07:06 PM
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04-08-2009, 07:12 PM
|  | put a bird on it | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Minnesota | | | thats really cool--it reminds me of the X-gate effect on my keyboard |
04-08-2009, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Spencer! Exciting, isn't it?
They told me the review was slated for the June issue. | big ups now i'm gassing for a groove rugulator again! |
04-09-2009, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by fightthepower Cool trick. I think the pollyanna would be great in front of a lowpass with the resonance very low. The pollyanna is very flat and even until the note chokes off, and should make for a nice pulsating (to the beat) wall of bass.
Like an (sine) lfo controlling the frequency cutoff? | The idea is that the frequency cut-off in the Qtron+ is determined by the LEVEL of the input signal. The actual nature of the triggering input signal doesn't matter as long as it's "audio". It could be a sine wave, pink noise, or a key on a cheap Casio keyboard held down with gaffa tape; all that matters is that there is some audio triggering input.
Varying this triggering input with a volume pedal will proportionately vary the cut-off frequency acting on the Bass' input (remember; the Bass is plugged into the effects return). Thus the cut-off changes in realtime as you move the pedal through it's sweep.
Et Voila! Instant sick- wah.
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04-09-2009, 09:49 AM
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04-10-2009, 01:15 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Perth, WA, Australia | | | The Boss slicer affects amplitude, i.e. chops out the volume of the note, while this affects amount of frequency cut.
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04-10-2009, 11:19 AM
|  | You don't want to do that. Trust me. Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: atlanta ga | | | wonder if i could hook that up with a 'fooger.
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