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03-20-2010, 05:20 PM
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Ok, I play a lot of stuff but I consider myself a jazz/funk player for the most part. I just would like to know if you don't use your envelope filter for funk how would you use it? I honestly, don't think I've ever heard an envelope used in any other situation on bass (maybe a few fusion tracks). I know there are filters that arent exactly funky out there (Subdecay Prometheus, Zcat Step) but I can't recall hearing them anywhere. Could anyone post a few clips that show them on bass in areas of music other than funk?
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03-20-2010, 05:33 PM
| | | | "Blues Jam" by Rollins Band from "the End Of Silence" CD is a great example of it being used on crushingly heavy rock. I believe it's used on the whole album but that track immediately comes to mind. Very heavy sound. |
03-20-2010, 06:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK, Essex | | | Fly Away by Lenny Kravitz. I guess he is borderline funk, but I consider this to be a rock track.
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03-20-2010, 07:41 PM
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03-20-2010, 07:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ennui | | | I would never call No Doubt's Spiderweb funky, and Tom Dumont uses a DOD FX-25 on it. Granted, he's the guitarist, but...
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03-21-2010, 06:35 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York City | | I used an envelope-controlled filter for years in Debris ( http://debris.rednotebook.org) and we got called a lot of things but "funky" was rarely one of them! Think avant-jazz comprovisation meets early 20th Century chamber music meets noise-prog.
Also, check out the much maligned Yes album Tormato, where Chris Squire uses a ton of envelope-controlled harmonizer on most tunes. Not quite the full-on "blarp" of a Mutron, but lots of similar duck quack attacks...and definitely not funky. |
03-21-2010, 09:59 AM
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03-21-2010, 10:13 AM
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03-21-2010, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Daveomd "Blues Jam" by Rollins Band from "the End Of Silence" CD is a great example of it being used on crushingly heavy rock. I believe it's used on the whole album but that track immediately comes to mind. Very heavy sound. | +1 to Rollins Band. They are playing heavy rock even the bass tracks are funky out of context. Bass will sound funky regardless of the setting, it's the rest of the band that will determine how everyone interprets it.
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03-21-2010, 11:36 AM
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I can get a pretty convincing All Alone (Gorillaz) Melody out of that threesome. |
03-21-2010, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Also, check out the much maligned Yes album [u Tormato[/u], where Chris Squire uses a ton of envelope-controlled harmonizer on most tunes. Not quite the full-on "blarp" of a Mutron, but lots of similar duck quack attacks...and definitely not funky. | I really like the way Squire uses that harmonizer. But man! As you said, it's on almost every song, like he got a new toy and made it his signature sound.
Big Chris Squire fan though. Sorry for the hijack.
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03-21-2010, 02:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lockport, NY | | | Black Sabbath - NIB - crazy distorted wah tone... not exactly an envelope filter, but close enough I suppose.
Also, check out some Al Cisneros stuff. He's more famous for Om and Sleep, but he uses an envelope filter on Shrinebuilder's "The Architect" (during the outro).
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03-21-2010, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ga_edwards Fly Away by Lenny Kravitz. I guess he is borderline funk, but I consider this to be a rock track. | "Rock" is just a catch-all term for music that isn't enough of anything. Like how Lenny Kravitz isn't funky enough. |
03-21-2010, 04:36 PM
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03-21-2010, 04:41 PM
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The Velorium Camper 3: Al The Killer by Coheed and Cambria
Not the greatest quality, but it's fast prog rock with an envelope filter on the bass. |
03-21-2010, 04:50 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Clovis, CA | | | yeah electronic, umm never win by fischerspooner, but it may be a keyboard.
ive heard some in rap, andre nickatina, im not sure which song. i wouldnt consider it funk, the vocals are more lead than anything else. |
03-21-2010, 04:55 PM
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03-21-2010, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ga_edwards Fly Away by Lenny Kravitz. I guess he is borderline funk, but I consider this to be a rock track. | I'm pretty sure that's a flanger.
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03-21-2010, 05:40 PM
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It IS funky though....... 
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03-21-2010, 05:52 PM
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