Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Effects [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

View Poll Results: What is your preferred EQ mid response?
Flat response (no mid change) 9 30.00%
Scooped mids (like Big Muff) 2 6.67%
Mid boost (like TS-9) 16 53.33%
Other 3 10.00%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 09-11-2008, 07:32 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
EQ preferences

Sign in to disble this ad
OK, so I am working on a simple 1 knob tone control for a distortion pedal right now and I am curious what your preferences are as far as EQ reponse, particularly with the mids.

It will boost the highs or lows, but what kind of mid response do you prefer. Do you prefer the scooped mid sound like a Big Muff, or the mid boost like a TS-9, or just a flat response?

Justin

Last edited by jisforjustin : 09-11-2008 at 07:48 AM.
  #2  
Old 09-11-2008, 09:31 AM
bongomania's Avatar
OVNIFX

EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: PDX, OR
GOLD Supporting Member
Guaranteed the different responses will be based on whether the user plays at home or plays in a dense/loud band mix. At home, scooped sounds great. In a dense band mix, scooped means inaudible, as the mids are what allow us to cut through the mix and be heard. With distortion especially, even a nominally flat response can lack the mid emphasis needed to be heard (depending on the mix), so it may sound scooped.

IMO tone knobs that boost the highs or lows are useless. Boosting the lows creates mud, and boosting the highs creates harshness (of course there are exceptions, I'm just speaking broadly). Maybe you could make it just a mids knob, boosting or cutting (or leaving flat) a specific range of mids.
__________________
Compressor, preamp, and EQ FAQ <--read first!
Compressor reviews / My blog / Twitter / >> Instrument cable reviews <<
New Exar Bass Compressor coming in late June/early July!

Last edited by bongomania : 09-11-2008 at 09:55 AM.
  #3  
Old 09-11-2008, 09:38 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Orleans, LA
Slight tangent - in terms of htz, what do you consider "mids?" Now seems a good time to ask since it's pretty close to on-topic...

I guess I could make it more on topic by asking...

What htz range each would you be emphasizing if you make it a low, high or mid boost/cut?
__________________
My (now broken up) band: Gold & Glass
  #4  
Old 09-11-2008, 09:38 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
How about a quasi paramatric stacked knob? Boost/cut and frequency with a fixed Q?
  #5  
Old 09-11-2008, 11:43 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by bongomania View Post
Maybe you could make it just a mids knob, boosting or cutting (or leaving flat) a specific range of mids.
I like that idea and it would definitely be doable.

I am curious though what frequency you all think would be the best center frequency for a mid cut/boost?

Justin
  #6  
Old 09-11-2008, 01:37 PM
ibnzneksrul's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: So Cal
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by trevcda View Post
How about a quasi paramatric stacked knob? Boost/cut and frequency with a fixed Q?
The Boss MT-2 has exactly that, making it quite a versatile pedal IME.
__________________
"If you don't feel it, don't play it." - J. Jamerson

Acoustic Club #47 | VT Bass Club #31 | Fender P-Bass Club #483 | Christian Praise and Worship Band Club #537
  #7  
Old 09-11-2008, 02:03 PM
bongomania's Avatar
OVNIFX

EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: PDX, OR
GOLD Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by jisforjustin View Post
I am curious though what frequency you all think would be the best center frequency for a mid cut/boost?
Hmmm... with a broad bandwidth, I'd say 500 Hz would be good.
__________________
Compressor, preamp, and EQ FAQ <--read first!
Compressor reviews / My blog / Twitter / >> Instrument cable reviews <<
New Exar Bass Compressor coming in late June/early July!
  #8  
Old 09-11-2008, 02:06 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New Westminster, BC
I used to be all about the mids, but now I use the VLF on my LMII a lot and love the results. My rock band uses a lot of bass breaks and it just seems to work well with the drummist!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Bassincus View Post
You COULD play metal with a violin bass, just like you COULD do surgery with a pocket knife. However, neither would be anybody's first choice.
Nihilist Bass Players Club - # Irrelevant
  #9  
Old 09-11-2008, 02:11 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Glendale, AZ
Quote:
Originally Posted by jisforjustin View Post
I like that idea and it would definitely be doable.

I am curious though what frequency you all think would be the best center frequency for a mid cut/boost?

Justin
I would go with a stacked parametric. The mids that you would want to boost are going to vary with the environment you're playing in and the in the mix that you're working with.
  #10  
Old 09-11-2008, 02:14 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia
Send a message via AIM to Thunderscreech Send a message via MSN to Thunderscreech Send a message via Yahoo to Thunderscreech Send a message via Skype™ to Thunderscreech
Mine curve gracefully from the lows down to the highs. My DI box spikes the treble, but my amp smooths it out nicely. If I ever sell that BA115, I'll have to get an EQ, because of the preset "modes". I like my lows and mids. Good for fuzzing.
__________________
Returned in a limited capacity due to noise
  #11  
Old 09-11-2008, 03:31 PM
nad nad is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ribwich, ZF
I would take a mid boost/cut knob before any high or low boost/cut as well. Semiparametric would be nice, but not absolutely necessary. Find the right frequency that compliments the character of the pedal and gives the ability to cut through a mix and that would work.

Scooped mids are pretty much the worst thing ever as far as I'm concerned. In fact, even/smooth/plain mids usually piss me off most of the time.
__________________
Chaos reigns.
  #12  
Old 09-11-2008, 07:27 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: West Coast of Canada
Send a message via AIM to Nyarlathotep Send a message via MSN to Nyarlathotep
personally I like the "flat" sound of my bass, but I also adore the mid boost EQ as well. Different things for different times.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:29 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.