Ernie ball volume pedal vs. VP jr

Samitch04 · #1 12-27-2008, 09:49 PM

i have no experience with either of these pedals. i was wondering if anybody that has active pre-amps has used either or both of them and how it sounded?

Revmizery · #2 12-27-2008, 11:49 PM

For the active electronics you will want to get the 25K Volume Jr. The only difference in the Jr's is that they are mono instead of stereo.

Samitch04 · #3 12-28-2008, 01:17 AM

thanks man

RevGroove · #4 12-28-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Revmizery

For the active electronics you will want to get the 25K Volume Jr. The only difference in the Jr's is that they are mono instead of stereo.

I would beg to differ. I haven't tried the 25K version, but after having noise problems with active volume pedals using active basses, I went to the passive EB Jr, with no problems whatsoever, and absolutely no noise in my signal.

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Revmizery · #5 12-29-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RevGroove

I would beg to differ. I haven't tried the 25K version, but after having noise problems with active volume pedals using active basses, I went to the passive EB Jr, with no problems whatsoever, and absolutely no noise in my signal.

What active volume pedals have you tried? I have no problems with noise at all with mine.

Boneless · #6 12-29-2008, 08:11 AM

All EB volume pedals are passive, the only thing changing is the value of the internal pot.

As with onboard volume and tone pots, you should match the volume pedal pot's impedance with the bass signal.

Strong signal (active electronics): low impedance.
Normal signal (passive electronics): high impedance

By the way, EMG-HZs pickups are named that way since Z means impedance, in physics, and HZ stands for "High Impedance", thus, passive pickups

RevGroove · #7 12-29-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Revmizery

What active volume pedals have you tried? I have no problems with noise at all with mine.

Behringer...um, yeh... and I tried a couple of Morleys...

...the EB VP Jr. Passive (AFAIK it's named so to denote it's intended use with a passive bass as opposed to an active bass...just took a quick peek at their website and each description states "...for use with ______ electronics...) cleared it all up for me.

I guess what I'm saying is using a 250K version VP gave me no issues whatsoever.

Which ones are you using?

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Hoover · #8 12-29-2008, 10:43 AM

I've been using an old Ernie Ball stereo volume pedal with my active basses since about 1990. I have no idea what value pot is in that pedal. Never heard any dramatic problems with it, though the fewer stompboxes I use the more I am aware of the slight signal loss the EB does seem to impart. But I'm willing to put up with some minor signal loss in exchange for its near indestructability & ease of maintenance.

CuticleThorns · #9 12-29-2008, 11:01 AM

I have been thinking of getting a EB volume pedal as I heard you can use them to fade out distortion effects?

Can anyone explain which ones do what? I play passive bass but have some boss (buffered) pedals in my effects chain.

Revmizery · #10 12-29-2008, 12:51 PM

I'm using the 25K "active" in the effects loop of my amp so it has a much higher signal for it. I also had a Morley volume, it was terrible it was more like a volume jump them a swell.

We need some one to get both the 25K and 250K and do a comparison with an active and passive bass.

RevGroove · #11 12-29-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Revmizery

I'm using the 25K "active" in the effects loop of my amp so it has a much higher signal for it. I also had a Morley volume, it was terrible it was more like a volume jump them a swell.

We need some one to get both the 25K and 250K and do a comparison with an active and passive bass.

*Sigh*, well if someone must...LOL!

I'll see if I can do something this week, but don't count on it...depends on if I have one in stock I can bring home and try out...

David Santos · #12 11-21-2010, 07:42 AM

What are the differences between the 250k regular and the 250k vp jr? Just size?
Thanks.

David Santos

faceinbass · #13 11-21-2010, 03:37 PM

I have a jr. and don't know what pot is in there. I should look.
BUT it seems like the volume travel is all wrong.
Its just too quiet for most of its range and only the top quarter of the travel is usable for me. Anyone else?

RevGroove · #14 11-21-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by David Santos

What are the differences between the 250k regular and the 250k vp jr? Just size?
Thanks.

David Santos

I found out that the pot is different in the VP jr, I actually found as did a co-worker that it affected tone adversely...especially for bass...so I actually stopped using it and sold it...

...it works well with some axes, not with others...so try before you buy is a definite suggestion AFAIC...or buy the regular sized one if you're playing bass would be my suggestion...

Tunaman · #15 11-21-2010, 07:44 PM

I have the VP jr & I hate it... selling it isn't a bad idea as I haven't used it in years & have absolutely no intention. Too much noise in the chain, tone killer but I can only speak for mine.

David Santos · #16 11-21-2010, 08:08 PM

Thank you. I guess I'll save up some more and get the regular.

David Santos