EVELOPE FILTER PEDALS anyone?

sailorofcheese · #1 10-05-2008, 05:04 PM

so im really thinking about getting an evelope filter pedal. i heard the ebs evelope pedals are really great. looking through different threads i see that many people like the EBS envelope filters. i dont quite understand that "truebass" technology and how they achieve it. but anyway...

any other pedals recommended?

bassplayertom77 · #2 10-05-2008, 05:06 PM

Mu-tron III from Electro-Harmonix. Bootsy in a box.

sailorofcheese · #3 10-05-2008, 05:07 PM

excuse me i think its "truebypass"?

sailorofcheese · #4 10-05-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bassplayertom77

Mu-tron III from Electro-Harmonix. Bootsy in a box.

mmmmmm bootsy. yeah i look that up. as far as how these pedals loose low end cause i know most pedals do that, what pedal do you see not loosing as much bass. thats one thing im thinking of

scotch · #5 10-05-2008, 05:15 PM

All "Evelope" pedals have "Truebass", it's the Evilope pedals you have to watch out for!!!

Sorry, just kidding around, op. I think you mean "Envelope Filter".

Also, Electro Harmonix doesn't make the Mu-Tron. You can choose either the Q-Tron from EH or HAZ for the reissue Mu-Tron.

Then, to top it off, if you search "envelope filter", you should come up with 100's of suggestions, clips, etc...

Happy hunting!

bassteban · #6 10-05-2008, 05:16 PM

DOD FX-25(or FX-25b)- discontinued but common & pretty cheap.

gm jack · #7 10-05-2008, 05:19 PM

I have a Q-tron Plus, and it's a great envelope filter.

In low pass and mix modes, plenty of bass is retained. In fact, low pass can give a thicker bass than when you started.

A great variety of sounds, though a little tricky to get to grips with initially. Very responsive to dynamics. If I set it right, I can get damn close to the wah sound in Calm Like a Bomb. I can also set it to fill in for the wah in Anathesia. It really is a great pedal for those classic envelope filter sounds as well. The wah imitation just shows the range of sounds.

bassplayertom77 · #8 10-05-2008, 05:22 PM

Right! Sorry, the Mutron a reissue by HAZ labs.

As far as losing low end, there are dip switches inside, so you can fine tune which frequencies are affected. I've never had a problem with loss of low end.

**DosiYanarchy** · #9 10-05-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bassplayertom77

Mu-tron III from Electro-Harmonix. Bootsy in a box.

*cough*Qtron*cough*

The Mutron III is by Musitronics. Its long since discontinued and is VERY expensive these days, there is a current reissue by HAZ Labs, but doesnt get nearly as much love. The Q-tron by EHX was designed by the guy who invented the Mutron (i think) and is widely available with different variations:

Micro Qtron
Qtron
Qtron + (with effects loop)

ive heard EBS is very high quality stuff but is also pretty expensive.

oh and if you've got money to burn: check out the Lovetone Meatball, also discontinued and also very expensive.

if you can find one cheap, try out the DOD FX25 envelope filter, its meant to be quite good for a basic envelope filter. the Ibanez Synthesizer Bass and the Digitech Bass Synth Wah also have good envelope filter sounds, and also have other options too.

Swift713 · #10 10-05-2008, 05:23 PM

"True bypass" means that the pedal will presumably not effect or degrade your signal when it is switched off because it's circuitry is removed from the signal chain. Other kinds of "bypass" can sound just as good.
My Q-tron isn't "true bypass" but it's bypass is clean and transparent. It's a great filter, very flexible but it's got a fairly large footprint and requires a 24volt wall wart rather than the "standard" 9volt Boss style that is easily daisy chained.
The Maxon AF9 is quite popular and doesn't have these "issues."

**DosiYanarchy** · #11 10-05-2008, 05:24 PM

damn, i think just about everyone beat me to it.
i suck

sailorofcheese · #12 10-05-2008, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassplayertom77

Mu-tron III from Electro-Harmonix. Bootsy in a box.

are you talking about the q-tron plus? the one they based the mu-tron III off of? im confused

fretlessman71 · #13 10-05-2008, 05:26 PM

Big fan of the EHX BassBalls here. It really seems to work WITH your sound.

sailorofcheese · #14 10-05-2008, 05:29 PM

thanks guys. im liking the plus so far. i'll have to try it out.

bassplayertom77 · #15 10-05-2008, 05:32 PM

No, I'm talking about the reissue from HAZ labs. Mutron III+. I agree with everyone else, just trying to give you options. Each filter has it's own unique sound, and price.

sailorofcheese · #16 10-05-2008, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swift713

"True bypass" means that the pedal will presumably not effect or degrade your signal when it is switched off because it's circuitry is removed from the signal chain. Other kinds of "bypass" can sound just as good.
My Q-tron isn't "true bypass" but it's bypass is clean and transparent. It's a great filter, very flexible but it's got a fairly large footprint and requires a 24volt wall wart rather than the "standard" 9volt Boss style that is easily daisy chained.
The Maxon AF9 is quite popular and doesn't have these "issues."

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...dal?sku=153310

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...dal?sku=150436

are these different models? weird

Swift713 · #17 10-05-2008, 05:39 PM

Yes, one is the newer XO series w/true bypass, smaller box, and 9volt supply.

Joe Gress · #18 10-05-2008, 06:41 PM

No. They are both 24V. One is just in a smaller, sturdier (IMO), and is true bypass.

Captain_Arrrg · #19 10-05-2008, 06:57 PM

Qtron+

As far as I can tell the low pass and mixed pass modes have no problems with retaining the low end. Plus, the FX loop is AMAZING.

As for Bootsy, he currently uses the Agent 00Funk Mark II from Chunk Systems.

whoatherechunk · #20 10-05-2008, 07:04 PM

line 6 fm4, maxon af-9, and ehx bassballs.