Bongo, I edited my snotty remark about "mocking" this setup out of that posting. Now that post just addresses the issue as it should have in the first place.
Again, sorry. Here you are actually INTERESTED in what I am doing and I nearly run you off. I totally misunderstood where you were coming from.
Quite all right. Here's a laugh at my own expense, on this subject:
Back when I had a similar setup, it was in two large rack cases, plus my amp and cab. I was living in San Franciso, and did not own a car. Generally to get to gigs or jams I'd call a cab and request a van, the type with wheelchair access, with enough room for the rig. And TBH it's not like I had many gigs.
Well, one time the gig was on a Saturday night, in a club "South of Market" where there's a lot of nightlife, loads of people in queues to get in to the many hot spots, herds of drunks in expensive clothes, etc. The gig let out at bar time, 2 am, so I packed up and tried to call a cab. 2am, Saturday night. Most of the cab companies didn't even answer the phone. The two that did pick up, neither had vans available, and neither could say when one might be able to get there. Now, there were plenty of regular cabs cruising the club streets, so I stood on the corner with my stack of gear and hailed cabs. Any one that stopped, would pull away as soon as I pointed to the racks and speakers. No vans. I was out there for almost two hours, 4 am, before a cabbie who had run out of rich drunks decided to try and help.
We managed to get one rack case in the trunk, one rack and amp into the back seat, and the speaker cab in the shotgun seat. We couldn't close the passenger door though, so we had to hold it with bungee cords hooked on inside the car, hopefully to keep the spkr cab from falling out when the car took a corner.
No room for me! So I paid the cabbie a flat amount in advance, telling him to take the gear to my address and wait for me there. I then walked a few blocks to a friend's apartment, managed to wake him up, borrowed his bicycle, and rode home.
The cabbie was there, with all my gear! Nothing lost or damaged. The cabbie was pretty irate, but I gave him a decent tip.
Got to bed around 5:30 am.
Next day, I started listing most of that gear on Ebay, figuring I couldn't afford to buy or keep a station wagon in that city, and I wasn't going to rely on van-sized taxis anymore!
Quite all right. Here's a laugh at my own expense, on this subject:
Back when I had a similar setup, it was in two large rack cases, plus my amp and cab. I was living in San Franciso, and did not own a car. Generally to get to gigs or jams I'd call a cab and request a van, the type with wheelchair access, with enough room for the rig. And TBH it's not like I had many gigs.
Well, one time the gig was on a Saturday night, in a club "South of Market" where there's a lot of nightlife, loads of people in queues to get in to the many hot spots, herds of drunks in expensive clothes, etc. The gig let out at bar time, 2 am, so I packed up and tried to call a cab. 2am, Saturday night. Most of the cab companies didn't even answer the phone. The two that did pick up, neither had vans available, and neither could say when one might be able to get there. Now, there were plenty of regular cabs cruising the club streets, so I stood on the corner with my stack of gear and hailed cabs. Any one that stopped, would pull away as soon as I pointed to the racks and speakers. No vans. I was out there for almost two hours, 4 am, before a cabbie who had run out of rich drunks decided to try and help.
We managed to get one rack case in the trunk, one rack and amp into the back seat, and the speaker cab in the shotgun seat. We couldn't close the passenger door though, so we had to hold it with bungee cords hooked on inside the car, hopefully to keep the spkr cab from falling out when the car took a corner.
No room for me! So I paid the cabbie a flat amount in advance, telling him to take the gear to my address and wait for me there. I then walked a few blocks to a friend's apartment, managed to wake him up, borrowed his bicycle, and rode home.
The cabbie was there, with all my gear! Nothing lost or damaged. The cabbie was pretty irate, but I gave him a decent tip.
Got to bed around 5:30 am.
Next day, I started listing most of that gear on Ebay, figuring I couldn't afford to buy or keep a station wagon in that city, and I wasn't going to rely on van-sized taxis anymore!
HA! I lived in Oakland and the Fremont area, been into SF many times, so I'm familiar with the venue of your story. Haahaa! What a trip. I got a good giggle out of that one. Only because I can relate.....
In the late 70s when I was in a band then, the drummer had modified a Ford PINTO to haul his stuff. Well, back then my main instrument was a "chopped" Hammond M100 organ. I played though a modified Crate guitar amp. We had to move the Hammond and for some forgotten reason I had no means of doing so on this one particular day in Tucson Az. So we jammed the Hammond (all 250+ pounds of it) into the area where the back seat used to be (he'd removed the entirety of the rear seat/upholstery and the front passenger seat to deal with hauling his traps), and he got on top of the Pinto and literall jumped into the air and landed on his butt on the roof to create a large endentation. We threw the Crate amp on top of the Pinto where it rode in the butt-dent, while I sat on the window ledge of the passenger door and he stuck one arm out his window to hang on to the amp as we drove through town.
It was a sortof combination of the Beverly Hillbillies and Sanford and Son. The rear hatchback of that well used Pinto hanging open with a chopped/rocker Hammond hanging out, me sitting on the window ledge of the passenger door holding on to the 4x12 combo amp that rested in a large dent (that pretty much caved in the whole roof) and him hanging on to the amp with one arm out his window --- two hippie/stoner/rockers in a Pinto hanging on to the amp as we drove through rush-hour traffic on Speedway Blvd in Tucson Az in the middle of Summer (115f).
For those that don't remember, Ford was sortof forced into stopping production of the Pinto because it had a tendency to rupture it's fuel tank if the car was hit hard enough from the rear, gasoline would gush from the ruptured fuel tank and if it was ignited usually the occupants of the Pinto didn't survive the resulting huge gasoline flash fire. So here we were, toodling along in this rolling Molitov Cocktail, Hammond and amp barely under control (of course we didn't tie anything down, "hey man, it's cool, nuthin will go anywhere, we're solid!") in rush hour traffic on a 115f day.
hear (pun intended) you go. I panned the tracks slightly ti give a better idea of which is which. bridge on the right neck on the left. I need some better preamps but it sounds ok I think https://soundcloud.com/derelict78/stereo-test
On a quick side note ..... I had a dream this morning that Derelict78 and Bongomania were room mates in a dorm, and for some reason I lived in that same dorm (different room though). I met the two of them. It was very strange!
hear (pun intended) you go. I panned the tracks slightly ti give a better idea of which is which. bridge on the right neck on the left. I need some better preamps but it sounds ok I think https://soundcloud.com/derelict78/stereo-test
Ok, so what was going on with that thing? I heard sortof this muddy distortion, not too much of it.
At 2:34 it almost sounded like you added a ring modulator. Heavier distortion if nothing else!
Then at 3:34 the envelope follower came in. That was sortof in and out for a bit. It worked well with whatever you were using as a distorter. Really put heavy emphasis on the filter sweeps.
5:10 is that ring mod, or some sortof fuzz?
5:36 ring mod or fuzz"
6:20 to end: again sounded like either a ring mod, or fuzz, or maybe even both. And what was doing the sweeping effect from 6:20 on out?
Trippy Robert Fripp type stuff. I could totally add some over the top synth responses to those "calls" of yours.
startin off it was m13's tube comp into modded DS-1 on neck and DE dark boost into dwarfcraft plane ticket plus
@2:34 I turn on SS/BS year 4545 no ring mod
@ 3:27 behringer BSY600 on neck
than some phaser and OD than some more FUZZ
throughout I am switching between neck, bridge and both just to give a better idea of what is going on.
Ok, we've pretty much covered the preamp setup, the bass cabs, and the power amp. I know I still need to do a LOT of testing of different EQ/FX/ETC in actual use with this "X-Rig" (as it has been dubbed). However, the developmental focus is now on the bass guitar itself. I feel that I've got a decent handle on the outboard setup with the parallel signal chains and all of that. So all that is pretty much left here with this rig is actually trying various processors that the system will use. Which means posts about the gear used, and posting audio demos of the results.
The next bit of tough work is getting the actual bass itself worked out.
So, I'm putting it to you all. Should I begin an entirely new thread focused on just the "X-Bass" itself (pickup choices, wiring setups, and the ultimate end of actually ordering and assembling a Warmoth or Mighty Might based instrument using all of the ideas and developments that were tried on the test bass)?
OR
Should I just add the bass-buildup info here and continue with this thread and shift the discussion from the outboard gear to the bass guitar?
Obviously if I start a new thread about the X-Bass the two threads would be cross-linked.
Which would be easier for you readers/subscribers to follow along with?
1.) - Adding the bass development to this X-Rig thread.
2.) - Creating an all new thread focused on the X-Bass itself?
My own thoughts on the issue are to create an entirely separate thread for the bass itself. That way I can keep any further testing of various FX and such in this X-Rig easier to find within this thread.
I would vote for keeping it all together here because you will probably end up running multiple outputs from the multiple pickup bass into your multichannel rig. To me it will be all one integrated system.
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TO ALL MY SUBSCRIBERS:
(all five of you .. haahaa! )
Ok, we've pretty much covered the preamp setup, the bass cabs, and the power amp. I know I still need to do a LOT of testing of different EQ/FX/ETC in actual use with this "X-Rig" (as it has been dubbed). However, the developmental focus is now on the bass guitar itself. I feel that I've got a decent handle on the outboard setup with the parallel signal chains and all of that. So all that is pretty much left here with this rig is actually trying various processors that the system will use. Which means posts about the gear used, and posting audio demos of the results.
The next bit of tough work is getting the actual bass itself worked out.
So, I'm putting it to you all. Should I begin an entirely new thread focused on just the "X-Bass" itself (pickup choices, wiring setups, and the ultimate end of actually ordering and assembling a Warmoth or Mighty Might based instrument using all of the ideas and developments that were tried on the test bass)?
OR
Should I just add the bass-buildup info here and continue with this thread and shift the discussion from the outboard gear to the bass guitar?
Obviously if I start a new thread about the X-Bass the two threads would be cross-linked.
Which would be easier for you readers/subscribers to follow along with?
1.) - Adding the bass development to this X-Rig thread.
2.) - Creating an all new thread focused on the X-Bass itself?
My own thoughts on the issue are to create an entirely separate thread for the bass itself. That way I can keep any further testing of various FX and such in this X-Rig easier to find within this thread.
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