Explain the LS-2 to me with this pic

[Oreomeister365]

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbas...7/6/239276.jpg

So theres the input/output, the A in/out and B in/out

if you wanted your usual clean tone mixed with a second distorted tone, would you want your normal "clean" cables going through the input/output (assuming you want to keep its level constant) and the grit channel through the A line so you can select its volume?

ya see the way I look it it, it has 3 lines, the standard (of which you cannot change the volume), and then A/B. So do I want to run my clean line straight to the amp through the A and through the input/output?

I'm sure if I had it I'd already know the answer, but I'd like to know...thanks.

[Taylor Livingston]

I'm not positive, but I don't think the loops blend with the clean signal. If you put your distortion in one loop, you would be able to choose either the distorted or clean sound, but not blend between the two. The Ls-2 has a lot of uses, but if you want a blend, you'll have to look elsewhere. There are plenty of blend boxes. It's also relatively easy to make one.

[bigchiefbc]

The only Blending the LS-2 will do is the A+B Mix / Bypass mode. This will mix the A and B loops together, but you cannot blend them or either one with the bypass signal. Although, I suppose if you were to connect the A send directly to the A receive, and then selected the A + B Mix mode, you could blend your clean signal with whatever is in the B loop.

[Oreomeister365]

so you cant sselect the level of just loop A and mix it however far you want into the signal going through the normal input/output?

huh...well what would you suggest for the optimal blender in this case? (besides getting a second amp)

[Taylor Livingston]

Here's one:

http://www.bargeconcepts.com/vfb1.html

[Oreomeister365]

Originally Posted by conical johnson

Here's one:

http://www.bargeconcepts.com/vfb1.html

thanks, that looks a little more specific to what I'm looking for, tailored more to what I want, I think

But I'm just a tad confused on it...does the looper have to be on the blend the clean with the effects chain? SO you just put your effects loop in the send/receive jacks, your normal "clean" signal in the in jack and out the out jack to the amp, right? And the whole bypass thing is a little new to me...When that bypass switch is on it basically ignores whats in the effects loop right? And the looper has nothing to do with what I'm interested in...right

I mean, I think I understand everything it says, its just sorta confusing and I want to understand exactly what I'm getting into.

thanks

[Higgie]

Whatever you put in the effects loop, you can blend with your clean signal. You change how much effected signal you want with the blend knob.

Easy Peasy.

[Sir Edward V]

Originally Posted by Oreomeister365

thanks, that looks a little more specific to what I'm looking for, tailored more to what I want, I think

But I'm just a tad confused on it...does the looper have to be on the blend the clean with the effects chain? SO you just put your effects loop in the send/receive jacks, your normal "clean" signal in the in jack and out the out jack to the amp, right? And the whole bypass thing is a little new to me...When that bypass switch is on it basically ignores whats in the effects loop right? And the looper has nothing to do with what I'm interested in...right

I mean, I think I understand everything it says, its just sorta confusing and I want to understand exactly what I'm getting into.

thanks

I think you have it down pretty much, but you are re-explaining it in a confusing way. With the BargeConcepts unit, you connect it:

Bass => Input of Barge Concepts
effect send on barge => input of the first effect in your effects loop
output of the last effect in your effects loop => effect return on barge
output on barge => amp

of course, "=>" is a guitar cable

then when it is engaged the effect takes your clean signal and blends it with the effected one. When it is disengaged (bypassed), your clean signal touches none of the effects in the loop, and it would be the same as going:

Bass => amp

I hope this helped clarify it for you.

[Oreomeister365]

Gotcha, thanks, it all makes sense.

[Mitchell Royce]

The LS-2 will do clean blend, I should know, I have one. If you have only one loop in use then in A+B Bypass mode it will act like a clean blend. Being able to adjust each level individually is very useful as well(I think +- 20 dB). If you're on a budget it's great, as it's useful for a ton of other stuff(like mixing two FX in parrallel and so on).

[Flintlock]

Originally Posted by Mitchell Royce

The LS-2 will do clean blend, I should know, I have one. If you have only one loop in use then in A+B Bypass mode it will act like a clean blend. Being able to adjust each level individually is very useful as well(I think +- 20 dB). If you're on a budget it's great, as it's useful for a ton of other stuff(like mixing two FX in parrallel and so on).

If you dont have any jacks plugged into the an "A" loop or "B" loop does it automatically bypass it? Or do you just put a cable around from Send A to Return A?

[idoru]

Originally Posted by Flintlock

If you dont have any jacks plugged into the an "A" loop or "B" loop does it automatically bypass it? Or do you just put a cable around from Send A to Return A?

Option 1. No cable is needed. The LS-2 is a fantastic blend pedal for the price, I've used it for years to blend distortions into my clean signal.

[Sir Edward V]

Originally Posted by idoru

Option 1. No cable is needed. The LS-2 is a fantastic blend pedal for the price, I've used it for years to blend distortions into my clean signal.

oh really? no cable needed?

weird

[Mitchell Royce]

If it makes you feel better you can also use a cable, it makes absolutely no difference.

[Terry-MaQ]

I've tried this with a load of distortion pedals but have been very dissapointed...

What distortion pedals are you putting in the loop?

[Oreomeister365]

a proco Turborat and and equalizer.

What has been dissapointing about it? I know it won't be quite the same as having two amps do it but hopefully the EQ specific to the loop can help make up for some of that eh?

[Mitchell Royce]

I've gotten the best results by mixing an OD(in my case a Guv'nor set to fairly bright) with a Fuzz. The Fuzz can get deep and crazy while the OD adds body and keeps everything sounding more dynamic.