Expression pedal recommendations?

[Frettage]

Does anyone have any recommendations for an expression pedal for use with an EHX Enigma QBalls?

[SoonerMatt]

The only one that comes to mind is the Moog EP-2.

[ryognbass]

I vote Ernie ball. you wont find a sturdier pedal, and the ability to use an independent cable for connection as opposed to the hard-wired cables on ones such as the moog, allows for cleaner wire routing.

I'm unsure of the compatibility with the enigma however. I'd give it a shot

[3toes]

Originally Posted by ryognbass

I vote Ernie ball. you wont find a sturdier pedal, and the ability to use an independent cable for connection as opposed to the hard-wired cables on ones such as the moog, allows for cleaner wire routing.

I'm unsure of the compatibility with the enigma however. I'd give it a shot

EB makes an expression pedal? I know you can send off the volume pedals to have them modded for expression...

[Frettage]

OK, so my second search yielded better results. The Boss FV-500H is apparently the best bet, and since it works as both volume and expression, it works unmodded.

[Wud]

The Ernie Ball Volume pedals work fine as Expression Pedals in my experience

[cnltb]

Is a volume pedal and an expression pedal not the exact same thing?
I always thought that was the case...
If not... what's the difference?

[WaldoNova]

I sent an email to EHX and this was their reply

Boss FV-500L
Alesis F2
Roland EV7
Moog Music EP2
Roland EV5
M-Audio EX-P


Try the above but you can use any pedal that has a TRS tip.
Tip, ring, sleeve.
Regards,

[fightthepower]

Originally Posted by WaldoNova

I sent an email to EHX and this was their reply

Boss FV-500L
Alesis F2
Roland EV7
Moog Music EP2
Roland EV5
M-Audio EX-P


Try the above but you can use any pedal that has a TRS tip.
Tip, ring, sleeve.
Regards,

I have the F2, EV5, EX-P, and an EP-1; of those I'd recommend the Roland EV-5 or Moog EP-2. I haven't tried the FV-500l, but if you don't mind the size and extra cost, the Boss FV-500L is supposed to be very solid.

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Originally Posted by Wud

The Ernie Ball Volume pedals work fine as Expression Pedals in my experience

They will only work as an expression pedal if the device they are being used with allows for either a volume or expression pedal to be used (like the Eventide Factor pedals do). Most will not.

Originally Posted by cnltb

Is a volume pedal and an expression pedal not the exact same thing?
I always thought that was the case...
If not... what's the difference?

Generally expression pedals use TRS cables, and volume pedals use normal TS cables. Expression pedals usually use a linear pot, and volumes usually use a logarithmic pot. Some devices will allow either to be used, others will only accept one or the other (and even then may only work well with particular pot value ranges).

[cnltb]

Originally Posted by Bryan R. Tyler

They will only work as an expression pedal if the device they are being used with allows for either a volume or expression pedal to be used (like the Eventide Factor pedals do). Most will not.



Generally expression pedals use TRS cables, and volume pedals use normal TS cables. Expression pedals usually use a linear pot, and volumes usually use a logarithmic pot. Some devices will allow either to be used, others will only accept one or the other (and even then may only work well with particular pot value ranges).

But... in function it's the same?

[Wud]

Originally Posted by Bryan R. Tyler

They will only work as an expression pedal if the device they are being used with allows for either a volume or expression pedal to be used (like the Eventide Factor pedals do). Most will not.

I must admit I've only used the EB pedal as an expression with a modfactor, so presumed it would work well with most other devices.

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Originally Posted by cnltb

But... in function it's the same?

Well, they both work to alter a parameter of a pedal or your sound. A volume pedal in its natural state has your signal flowing through its in and outputs. Your signal never goes through an expression pedal- it only attaches to another pedal/MIDI device. Despite their general purposes, some units (like the Factors) let you use a volume pedal to control factors other than signal volume with an expression pedal, and some will let you control volume with an expression pedal.

Originally Posted by Wud

I must admit I've only used the EB pedal as an expression with a modfactor, so presumed it would work well with most other devices.

I thought the ability to take either an expression pedal or a mono volume pedal's input was a great idea on Eventide's part when they put out those pedals. It's unfortunately not the norm though.

[cnltb]

So an expression pedal is basically a midi controller, doing any function assigned to it through the device it is connected to?

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Yes, although it doesn't have to be a MIDI device. Unfortunately there's no universal law on which devices can accept one or both, or even what value potentiometer you should use (or how the TRS is wired, etc.). Your best bet in any situation is to ask the maker of the product you're using what they recommend, as they usually have a list of what will and won't work with their products.

[cnltb]

I guess I'll stick with my no effects and as few cables as possible "policy" with the occasional volume pedal and distortion...
Thanks for all that information!

[sillyfabe]

i use a Moog EP-2 with no issues for my QBALLS exp pedal fix. you pretty much get a wah-wah with INCREDIBLE range b/c you can set your start and stop freq

[jnevi9nr]

so is Moog EP-2 still the best one to use with this?

[sillyfabe]

from my personal experience: yes

[khabalah]

i have 4 x EP-2s altogether, i think they`re fantastic considering the price!