Failure tone appreciation

[Sawtooth]

Any ideas on getting an approximation of the distorted bass tone from the album Magnified?

Frogs

Small Crimes

One of my favorite bass toanz

[Kromwarp]

I would say a VT Bass or XXL and a heavy pick

[rratajski]

Old Green Russian Big Muff. Rickenbacker. Wal. Herion.

[bigchiefbc]

Also keep in mind that Greg Edwards played Wal basses, which has a very distinctive growl to it. It will be hard to replicate, as all Justin Chancellor fanboys can attest to.

[stflbn]

I'd have no problem getting that tone with a VT-bass with character knob rolled around toward the right, roundwounds and a pick.

Also would have problem getting it with my M13 without a pick.

[rebelscum]

Originally Posted by bigchiefbc

Also keep in mind that Greg Edwards played Wal basses, which has a very distinctive growl to it. It will be hard to replicate, as all Justin Chancellor fanboys can attest to.

<------ J.C Fanboy, and I can attest to this fact.
I actually played one of these and instantly heard it.
Too bad I can neither find or afford one.

[vegas532]

Sorry to resurrect a corpse, but lately I've been stockpiling muff variants (a phase, if you will) and acquired the Stomp Under Foot Civil War and it nails "Small Crimes".

Now to a question...would you guys think I were nuts to do a pedalboard of "Muffs"?

It'll be:
Grey Stache
SUF CW
SUF Green
S&S Bluebeard
Swollen Pickle

Alright...I've lost it!

[magneezius]

Originally Posted by Sawtooth

One of my favorite bass toanz

+1

Great album. I also love "Heliotropic" off of fantastic planet. Too bad A Perfect circle didn't cover this song as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llxvuf_X_us

[RickenBoogie]

Hey, just a huge Failure fan, dropping by to say howdy,....Howdy.
Also love that bass tone, and I get fairly close with a Ric, a Valve Drive, and a Mesa Buster 210/15 rig. Gnarly growl with an edge.

[skulletwhip]

BIG FAN. Actually gonna get a tat of the Fantastic Planet soldier soon.

BTW: Do we know what Muff those guys used? I made a Green clone and get pretty damned close to the Heliotropic tone.

[vegas532]

Originally Posted by skulletwhip

BTW: Do we know what Muff those guys used? I made a Green clone and get pretty damned close to the Heliotropic tone.

I heard from a very reliable source that it was the Green...but I'm telling you, The CW I received nailed it when I tried it.

Keep in mind that I also own a Wal, however, so YMMV.

[Gasman]

buglen
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Last one for today, #5 from the list:

Failure - Frogs

This is the intro from the song, played at a 1/2 step higher (drop D tuning).

FEA Dual Band Distortion Settings:
Each setting is represented on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being the 7:00 position and 10 being the 5:00 position on the knob (min to max).
Low Band - Drive: 5
Low Band - Octave: 0
Low Band - Tone: 10
Low Band - Level: 6
Low Band - Dry: 5
High Band - Drive: 10
High Band - Mids: 0
High Band - Highs: 8
High Band - Level: 6
Frequency: 3
Bypass: Off

Setup:
MM Stingray SLO 4-string (with a pick) -> FEA Dual Band Distortion -> Hartke HA4000 -> FEA Custom Cabs (2x10, 1x18) -> Behringer XM8500 Mic -> Fostex MR-8HD Digital Recorder

Links to the others samples posted earlier today and this week for review:
Dodge Truck Commercial Riff
Stroker And Hoop Intro
Converge - Dark Horse (bridge)

This is from a post I just saw tonight. Fate?

[Gasman]

Originally Posted by buglen

Last one for today, #5 from the list:

Failure - Frogs

This is the intro from the song, played at a 1/2 step higher (drop D tuning).

FEA Dual Band Distortion Settings:
Each setting is represented on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being the 7:00 position and 10 being the 5:00 position on the knob (min to max).

• Low Band - Drive: 5
• Low Band - Octave: 0
• Low Band - Tone: 10
• Low Band - Level: 6
• Low Band - Dry: 5
• High Band - Drive: 10
• High Band - Mids: 0
• High Band - Highs: 8
• High Band - Level: 6
• Frequency: 3
• Bypass: Off

Setup:
MM Stingray SLO 4-string (with a pick) -> FEA Dual Band Distortion -> Hartke HA4000 -> FEA Custom Cabs (2x10, 1x18) -> Behringer XM8500 Mic -> Fostex MR-8HD Digital Recorder

Links to the others samples posted earlier today and this week for review:

• Dodge Truck Commercial Riff
• Stroker And Hoop Intro
• Converge - Dark Horse (bridge)

I'll record and post more tomorrow...

Sorry, this is what I meant

[karter2000]

Yeah, I'm a huuugggeee Greg Edwards fan (saw him couple weeks ago with Autolux...playing guitar though ). I've always read his main "overdrive" tone was a Rat. I've tried lots of Rats, including DIY ones but I've not been able to get that tone. Of course, I don't have the necessary Wal either. I still have a few things to try though. I think the trick to his overdrive tone is to dial the right amount of "crunch" without losing too much definition or bottom end (and not too fuzzy). Tall order I know!

To my ears, that FEA Dual Band clip sounds pretty damn good (and close). I think the Darkglass B3K would come close to copping that tone as well. I'm going to try both when I have a chance.

[skulletwhip]

I read he used a Boss Eq with the Rat. That band achieved so many cool sounds on all the instruments.