Feedbacker device

[Thunderscreech]

I am seeking a Generator of Feedback, A la Schumann PLL, but more along the cost lines of the Boss DF-2. I just need the Overtone Generator, which is some sort of Envelope control thing.

Included are the Schems for the Boss DF-2. If you can tell me how to cut out the rest of the thing and just have the Feedback generator, I would be very, very happy. I'll email you a beer or something. Thanks in Advance.

[darkgloryknight]

you could ask boss they mite give you the answer

[Thunderscreech]

Hmm...

I actually found the answer. It looks like the part with Distortion written near it needs to go.

The rest can stay...and that is a lot of components...

[sonic assassin]

if you get that working, let me know. ive been dying to hear one of those.

[lousybassist]

Originally Posted by sonic assassin

if you get that working, let me know. ive been dying to hear one of those.

+1. I'm very interested in this type of pedal too.

[katri]

Originally Posted by sonic assassin

if you get that working, let me know. ive been dying to hear one of those.

+2

[Thunderscreech]

It looks like an epic undertaking.

I'll do some layout sketches in my free time while I figure out how to remove the distortion part.

[superbassman2000]

I am no pedal whiz, but are you sure that it would work like you'd expect it to without the distortion circuit?

i also wonder how this would sound compared with a distortion pedal in a feedback loop

[Thunderscreech]

Originally Posted by superbassman2000

I am no pedal whiz, but are you sure that it would work like you'd expect it to without the distortion circuit?

i also wonder how this would sound compared with a distortion pedal in a feedback loop

Kinda like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObPdiSVD1Bs

I guess i ought to get a DF-2 and see if I like it before I got build this....but then again, if i don't like what I build, there's someone on here who will...several someones, probably.

[whoatherechunk]

the schumann pll really isnt a feedback generating unit.....

[tomhanzo]

i bet it would sound cool.

[superbassman2000]

Originally Posted by Thunderscreech

Kinda like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObPdiSVD1Bs

I guess i ought to get a DF-2 and see if I like it before I got build this....but then again, if i don't like what I build, there's someone on here who will...several someones, probably.

thats pretty cool--i didn't realize thats how it worked--by the sound of it, a distortion in a feedback loop wouldn't work because the pitch would be the same--the DF2 seems to change. cool pedal. I still am not sure how it would sound without a distortion though.

[Thunderscreech]

Originally Posted by superbassman2000

thats pretty cool--i didn't realize thats how it worked--by the sound of it, a distortion in a feedback loop wouldn't work because the pitch would be the same--the DF2 seems to change. cool pedal. I still am not sure how it would sound without a distortion though.

It'll have distortion, just not built into the unit. I'll have a loop or something.

[Taylor Livingston]

Did you guys know that Behringer makes a clone of this that costs $30? I have played the Boss and found it to be rather disappointing, so if I were you I would spend $30 and no more on something that I might very well never use again.

I know about the hatred of Behringer of course, but a plastic enclosure is perfectly tough enough for getting stepped on once every couple of months, as often as you'll want to use this thing.

If you're interested in real feedback without deafening volume, get a Sustainiac pickup in your bass. I have one and it is endlessly useful and fun.

[Amitio]

Originally Posted by conical johnson

If you're interested in real feedback without deafening volume, get a Sustainiac pickup in your bass. I have one and it is endlessly useful and fun.

Clips?! please

[Joe P]

Originally Posted by superbassman2000

...I still am not sure how it would sound without a distortion though.

It looks like they have to have it distorted because all the PLL and ocsillator stuff looks like it's binary - it only puts out squares and pulses and stuff.

So if you elliminated the clipped part, you'd be left with a clipped-style wave anyway.

Joe

[Thunderscreech]

Originally Posted by conical johnson

Did you guys know that Behringer makes a clone of this that costs $30? I have played the Boss and found it to be rather disappointing, so if I were you I would spend $30 and no more on something that I might very well never use again.

I know about the hatred of Behringer of course, but a plastic enclosure is perfectly tough enough for getting stepped on once every couple of months, as often as you'll want to use this thing.

If you're interested in real feedback without deafening volume, get a Sustainiac pickup in your bass. I have one and it is endlessly useful and fun.

I don't hate Behringer. The BDI21 is one of the best purchases I ever made. I guess you do have a point in spending 30 on the Behringer and seeing if I like it first before dropping the money for all the parts to build one minus distortion.

[Taylor Livingston]

Originally Posted by Amitio

Clips?! please

Many of the clips in this thread use the sustainer. Those are the only clips I have right now, and they are effected, but I will try to put some clean ones up some time.

Originally Posted by Thunderscreech

I don't hate Behringer. The BDI21 is one of the best purchases I ever made. I guess you do have a point in spending 30 on the Behringer and seeing if I like it first before dropping the money for all the parts to build one minus distortion.

In my experience, you will spend at least $30 on components, box, and hardware, if not significantly more. Plus, there's etching the PCB and everything... Don't get me wrong, I love DIY (see above thread link) but in this case I think it makes more sense to go with the Behringer. If you like it, and think it won't last as is, you could put it in a nice aluminum enclosure and make it true bypass if that's your thing.