Filter Freaks...Best Evelope Filter for Slap/Pop?

[soulplane83]

Sup errbody

Given that the sound of an envelope filter is so dependent on its settings and, more importantly, your attack, what are some of your choices for an envelope filter when slapping/popping. I'll probably be running a 2 filter setup, so I'm not looking for a versatile filter, but rather just the best one for slapping. As far as soundclips go, the EBS Bass IQ sounds hard to beat in that category. Any others I should check out?

[syciprider]

Having used the following:

Moog LPF
EHX BB
EHX Qtron+
Maxon AF9
Pig EP-1
BSW


The best slapper (to me) is the Qtron+ followed closely by the Maxon AF-9. BTW, all my filters are gone save for the Maxon.

[phatbass]

EHX Qtron+ ... my fave at the moment.

[rhcp32291]

+1 for the AF-9

in high range mode its great for quick little chirps
and in low range mode its a great thick enveloped slap sound

[lowendrob]

The EMMA Electronics DiscumBOBulator is my favorite. It tracks extremely fast and doesn't destroy the tone of your bass. I have found that it works very well for slap.

[myuhlz]

Hello, I use a Electro Harmonix Dr. Q and it's quite good.

[chicago_mike]

+1 emma

also mailbomb works quite well, q-tron and the ibanez/maxon. Of course if you find a vintage mutron, well I shouldnt have to tell ya.

[derelicte]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG!!!!!!

with expression pedal!

[Rattman]

"sup?" oh no... not here.. please!!!

[Joe Gress]

EHX Qtron+.

Can't beat it for slap.

[phatbass30]

AF-9!!!

[Jared Lash]

Personally I'm not a big slapper and I'm not all that fond of slapping with a filter on, so take this with a grain of salt, but I'd agree with those who said the EMMA. I don't like super wet or thick filters when slapping because it's just too peaky all around. IMO, you get nothing but trebly highs from it. In general I like an autowah better for slap.

That said, while I ended up getting rid of the EMMA for not being wet enough, that's what made it good for slapping.

As a side note, one of my projects is a RHCP tribute band and so I've used a couple different filters for copping tones. For the break in Power of Equality, I slap using a DOD FX25 which is I believe what Flea used on the record.

[Crabby]

love my MXR Bass Auto Q

[kevteop]

I don't really play slap, but the EHX Bassballs (set to a low response setting) works well with slap playing. It's not the sort of filter sound you'd expect, of course, but it's a good sound.

[scotch]

Looks like the Maxon AF-9 is popular. I was going to suggest the Mu-Tron III or Mu-Tron III+ (reissue). The AF-9 is supposed to sound like the Mu-Tron, but when I tried it in the store, it just didn't respond the same. I want to like the AF-9 (it sure is a lot smaller & easier to power), but I couldn't make it sound like the original... oh well, YMMV!

That said, the Mu-Tron circuit has a nice, natural compression to it that is perfect for slap/pop techniques.

[grygrx]

I'm still enjoying the syle green filter. Not a huge slap/pop guy myself, but the thing is gurgley as all get out (as opposed to laser beams).

April mini review by me - No slap samples.

Manuf Website - Also lacking slap samples.

[Largedon]

I've used a EBS IQ, EH Bassballs, and a QTron. Of the 3, my fav is the IQ. Really worked well for me and was very responsive dynamically. The Bassballs works well also, but is quite a bit different tonally and doesn't respond as well to dynamic changes. I really didn't like the QTRon at all, just didn't work well for me. The other nice thing about the IQ is that you can set it up as either an up or down sweep or set it on auto-wah, which is nice for slapping.

[JTE]

EBS. Sounds perfect for me, utterly reliable and I don't have to tweak the knobs every time I set up.

DOD was great except that the filter was really low and I wasn't looking for dub sounds.

Boss AutoWha sucked big time (noisy, hard to control, noisy, unreliable, and noisy).

Q-Tron had some real problems with setting levels, it needed to be tweaked a LOT every gig (heck, even between sets!), and it took up a lot of real estate. Add in that it had special power supply and it just wasn't worth the hassles to me.

jte

[grygrx]

Originally Posted by ProBeachBum

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I've been fooling around with the Groove Regulator by 3 Leaf Audio and it's pretty sweet.

Clips!