Finally got the tools for my sound...

phoenixgraves · #1 07-07-2011, 09:03 AM

Greetings fellow bassists!

So first off, let me start by saying that I know there are alot of threads out there for pedal order. But this is what I need help with. I have the last 2 pedals I need in the mail (should be here today or tomorrow! Yes!!!). Heres what I will be rockin:

An Ibanez EDA 905

Boss TU-2 Tuner
Boss CE-5 Chorus
Boss BF-3 Flanger
Sansamp Programmable Bass Driver
Boss DD3 Delay
Tech 21 RVB Boost Reverb
Wah
Tonebender Fuzz Clone (I actually still need to buy this one)

Going into a Mark IV head and 2x10 1x15 Laney cab.

Again, I know there are threads out there but no where have I found where to put the Sansamp. Is it considered a distortion? Before or after the chorus/flanger? I have the Sansamp on 100% of the time.

Also, I need a power supply for all these toys. Anyone know of any good one that can handle 8 pedals? I will be looking for a pedalboard or making my own soon too.

Any help would be greatly appreciated... Thanks!

stflbn · #2 07-07-2011, 09:11 AM

And this is in Hardware Setup and Repair for what reason?

Probably better in Effects.

202dy · #3 07-07-2011, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stflbn

And this is in Hardware Setup and Repair for what reason?

Probably better in Effects.

Agreed.

However, since the question has been asked, the Sansamp Bass Driver functions as a preamp. Place the rest of the effects in relation to a preamp.

bassgod0dmw · #4 07-07-2011, 11:17 AM

Effects Forum. FAQ, top of the page.

phoenixgraves · #5 07-07-2011, 01:50 PM

Sorry. I figured since I was setting up my rig, it would go in the setup section.

I'm a little new at this and figured I would get **** no matter where I put it.

I'll try the effects. Thanks for your help.

JonnyAngle · #6 07-07-2011, 03:29 PM

I'd go:
Wah
Tonebender Fuzz Clone
Boss CE-5 Chorus
Boss BF-3 Flanger
Boss DD3 Delay
Tech 21 RVB Boost Reverb
Sansamp Programmable Bass Driver
Boss TU-2 Tuner

Switch the tuner and Sansamp if you use the DI on the Sansamp.

phoenixgraves · #7 07-07-2011, 05:58 PM

I do not use the DI. And I kind of like how the tuner cuts all sound when I need to tune mid set. But I guess it would do that if
It was at the end too. Does the tuner mess with the signal or something?

Thanks for your help.

rr5025 · #8 07-07-2011, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenixgraves

I do not use the DI. And I kind of like how the tuner cuts all sound when I need to tune mid set. But I guess it would do that if
It was at the end too. Does the tuner mess with the signal or something?

Thanks for your help.

You can put it at the end or beginning, as with any order question it comes down to what sounds best to your ears. If you're using the Sansamp as a preamp though you should put it after all effects.

paganjack · #9 07-07-2011, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyAngle

I'd go:
Wah
Tonebender Fuzz Clone
Boss CE-5 Chorus
Boss BF-3 Flanger
Boss DD3 Delay
Tech 21 RVB Boost Reverb
Sansamp Programmable Bass Driver
Boss TU-2 Tuner

Switch the tuner and Sansamp if you use the DI on the Sansamp.

That's exactly how I would do it given that you keep that Sansamp on all the time. I put my tuner at the front, but that's just personal preference.

phoenixgraves · #10 07-08-2011, 01:40 AM

It seems that when I have the flanger last, it messes up half way through a song and I end up unplugging it. I tried the sansamp last and it seemed to work fine. Any idea why it wouldnt work last? Even the tech 21 says it should go after the sansamp.

I don't get it.

bassgod0dmw · #11 07-08-2011, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenixgraves

It seems that when I have the flanger last, it messes up half way through a song and I end up unplugging it. I tried the sansamp last and it seemed to work fine. Any idea why it wouldnt work last? Even the tech 21 says it should go after the sansamp.

I don't get it.

What do you mean by "messes up halfway through..."

phoenixgraves · #12 07-08-2011, 09:01 AM

It cuts out completely. I then, frantically, reach down and unplug the damn thing an it works fine. Last night I put the chorus, flanger, tuner in front of the sansamp and it did fine. By front, I mean:

Bass-tuner-flanger-chorus-sansamp-amp

If the flanger is after the sansamp, it cuts in and out and acts like the signal is getting lost.

**DosiYanarchy** · #13 07-08-2011, 11:00 AM

Could it be the volume of the signal going into it? Ie if the sansamp is providing line level output. Also, maybe your powersupply is running out of juice more noticably at the end of the chain and the flangers current draw isnt being satisfied after the rest get fed!

JonnyAngle · #14 07-08-2011, 11:54 AM

I like the tuner last. Here's why:
You're playing and something happens to your effect loop that causes a shreak coming out of your amp. It may be that a cable breaks, accidentally bump the volume to 11 on the fuzz. I'd hit the tuner to mute it, but oh snap!, it's at the beginning of the chain and I can't mute my effects!

JetBlackJazz · #15 07-08-2011, 12:02 PM

too much...all ya need is a 500 watt combo, Digitech hardwire OD, Chorus, Reverb, Delay, and Tuner....

chuck norriss · #16 07-08-2011, 12:11 PM

congratulations, phoenix

I thought the unwritten rule was tuner first (to get an unadulterated signal to your tuner, obviously), compression if any, OD/dist/fuzz, coloring--chorus/flange, echo(s)

Audiophage · #17 07-08-2011, 12:29 PM

It really doesn't matter where you put your tuner, but if something in your signal chain goes haywire, it's nice to have a mute switch between whatever is causing the malfunction and your amp. As a tuner it won't make a difference where it is.

dakotahbowie · #18 07-08-2011, 01:26 PM

i also use a sansamp, constantly on, as a preamp to 'clean up' my sound. ive tried it in different spots in my chain but i think it sounds best at the end. if youre just using it for eq that would be my suggestion. as a drive channel... maybe not

Bassmike62 · #19 07-08-2011, 09:20 PM

This ?

BASS > Boss TU-2 Tuner > Wah > Tonebender > SansAmp >
Boss CE-5 Chorus > Boss BF-3 Flanger > Boss DD3 Delay > Tech 21 RVB Boost Reverb

avvie · #20 07-09-2011, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenixgraves

Sorry. I figured since I was setting up my rig, it would go in the setup section.

Ain't that the cutest thing you ever did hear?

Since you're new at this, you should know that 'setup' refers to string height (a.k.a 'action') and intonation, bridge adjustment and the like. Be sure to get some advice on that around your town too... I've seen a LOT of players go for yours trying to play instruments that are better fit for shooting arrows with. and they wonder why they can't nail that lick...