Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Effects [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 10-02-2008, 09:34 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Tucson, AZ
First pedal purchase

Sign in to disble this ad
In the roughly 10 years that I have played bass guitar, I have been using pretty basic gear. A passive bass and a fairly simple amp. I have been the same way with my guitar playing and prefer acoustic in that realm.

I just started playing bass in a group again. So I have considered using $100 to expand my horizons. The two products I have been looking at are:

Hartke VXL Bass Attack Preamp/DI
Zoom B2 multi-effects pedal

Obviously these are two different beasts. The Hartke seems like a serious piece of equipment that could be used in performance, but I am wondering if it will provide much more than my amp already provides (aside from the DI, straight to mixer scenario where it would be useful). People here seem to like their Sansamps, and this is a similar device. The Zoom seems like it would be a fun toy, but not for serious use. Also, I find that I am not too interested in the "effects", that is, the stuff like wah, chorus, octaver, or synth. But the Zoom does seem to have some nice drive and EQ capabilities (the compresser seems cool, but also seems to get the most complaints).

Any opinions here?
Are there better options out there for $100 or under? (so, not a Sansamp)
Should I even bother?
  #2  
Old 10-02-2008, 09:40 PM
SpankyPants's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Louisiana for now.
Send a message via Skype™ to SpankyPants
Supporting Member
Buy used.

If one isn't what you think you want, sell it and buy the other.
__________________
Gypsy Space Caravan / ??? / Me!
Selling: Robotalk 1 & Devi Ever TP w/ clean blend
http://soundcloud.com/gypsyspacecaravan/antares-main-sequence
  #3  
Old 10-02-2008, 09:44 PM
Jared Lash's Avatar
I'm a tumbler, born under punches
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Northern California
Supporting Member
Run Away!!


Seriously, the world of effects can be an addicting one.

But it sounds like you have a good handle on what you want to do and why. Personally, I only recommend a multi like the Zoom to people who want to get into effects but don't know where to start. It allows them to hear a bunch of different effects to decide what they do and don't like before moving on to more expensive single units or a higher quality multi.

But it doesn't sound like that's a road you want to (or need to for your music) go down. I haven't used the Hartke so I can't really say yay or nay on that one, but if you want some tube emulation or a bit of overdrive, it may well be your beast. There are other pedals that I can recommend depending on exactly what you want.

But the bottom line is that you need to decide if you want/need effects either for having fun or more importantly adding texture to the music you play. We can recommend gear (and you will get a lot of good advice here) but only you know whether it's something worth investing time and money in.
__________________
The Talkbass Stambaugh gallery

PM me with any new submissions.
  #4  
Old 10-03-2008, 07:06 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Tucson, AZ
Thanks for the good advice and the always welcome Monty Python reference (due to the addiction aspect I would have also accepted "IT'S A TRAP!" with a nice Star Wars image). It sounds like a multi-effects pedal might not be for me. At the least, the Hartke interests me for the ability to do some recording because my amp does not have a direct or line out (the effects send is post-volume, but pre-EQ), but it has such a low signal to noise ratio that it would hardly be worth it. I think I will make a trip into my local shop to see if I can play with some stuff and get a better idea about what is right for me.

Another option I spotted online was the Aphex Bass Xciter. It's also a preamp/DI with some interesting enhancement capabilities.

Thanks again for the replies.
  #5  
Old 10-03-2008, 07:15 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Ukraine
You can easy find MXR M80DI+ for <100$.
  #6  
Old 10-03-2008, 07:25 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New Delhi, India
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBigO View Post
Run Away!!
+1 lol
seriously, last year i thought i'd get an eq and a compressor because i play a passive bass and a lot of slap style and often go direct to the FOH (DI is provided by the SE) then later somewhere i got an overdrive/distortion, now am getting a tuner and a sansamp vt in another three weeks. after this i already have plans for the digitech BSW and a flanger or a phaser (or both?) i might get rid of a pedal or two from what i have to make space for something else. in all seriousness you would soon want one of each kind before you realize
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyM View Post
if you want to make a million dollars in music, start with 2 million
LESSONS = GAS killers!
  #7  
Old 10-03-2008, 09:03 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sully, Iowa
Quote:
Originally Posted by P_HAT View Post
You can easy find MXR M80DI+ for <100$.
+1. I don't have my own (yet) but when i borrow it from my friend, i love the sound that i get out of it.
__________________
Ampeg Club #394/Yamaha Club #131/SX Member - good stuff/Praise & Worship #689
Looking for lefty P neck that fits an SX body
  #8  
Old 10-03-2008, 10:12 AM
Valerus's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: College Station, Texas
Send a message via AIM to Valerus Send a message via MSN to Valerus Send a message via Skype™ to Valerus
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBigO View Post
Run Away!!
hahah
__________________
Will Todd Photography
thephoenixodyssey

Clubs:
P&W #11, Jazz Bass #11, TX Bassist #11
Doom #11, Fuzzrocious #11, Orange #55
  #9  
Old 10-03-2008, 01:56 PM
LuvMusic's Avatar
Thunder and Lightning
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Oak Park, IL
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by msiner View Post
Another option I spotted online was the Aphex Bass Xciter. It's also a preamp/DI with some interesting enhancement capabilities.

Thanks again for the replies.
I should have run away....too late! Oh Well

Advice about buying used is good. Just bought an Aphex Bass Xciter for $50.00 here on the TB classified. I've only played with it for about 20 minutes so, no conclusions yet. I'll probably keep it just for its DI capability.
__________________
"Do not take counsel of your fears!"

General "Stonewall" Jackson

I Love βΘИΞКЯŲŜĦÏИĞ® Tone #96
Markbass Club #86
P Bass Club #427

Check my profile for things I have for sale or trade.
  #10  
Old 10-03-2008, 02:33 PM
Joe Gress's Avatar
no really, smokemeth&hailsatan
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Pueblo, CO
Send a message via AIM to Joe Gress
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyPants View Post
Buy used.

If one isn't what you think you want, sell it and buy the other.
+1 Best way to go. That way you don't have to blow all your money on something that you don't want to keep.

Start out with a multi effect. That way you can get a whole bunch at once, and then figure out the one you really want. Then you can find the exact pedal hat nails the sound your looking for. Then you can get bored with it and get a different one. Then you can get the newest version of it since it's smaller. Then you can trade it in for your old one again since it doesn't sound as good. Then you can sell all your pedals for a big multi effect since it's easier to haul around. The you can get another little pedal because your multi just doesn't quite get "that sound". Then you can get...
__________________
TB Resident Hophead

Having a bad day?
  #11  
Old 10-03-2008, 02:40 PM
MatticusMania's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: West Covina (LA), SoCal
Send a message via AIM to MatticusMania Send a message via Yahoo to MatticusMania
Supporting Member
Personally, I wouldnt reccomend a multi-unit to anyone unless it was one of those spectacular, can do everything AND sounds great types, which Im not sure they even exist. After playing for almost a year I wanted to get into effects and got a Digitech BP-200. At the time, not knowing the things i know now... it was cool. And TheBigO is right, if you want to use effects but dont know what youre getting into, it is a good and cheap way to learn about the different sounds available. But in retrospect, no, I didnt quite need it. I prefer single effects units by far.

Anyways, sorry to go off topic, but it sounds like the pre-amp is a better choice.
__________________
Bassist for Starveya - www.reverbnation.com/starveya
Sat June 9th @ Shamrocks in Chino Hills - 10pm
Bassist - Veg#33, Buddhist#11, LGBT#5
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:27 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.