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Suatie 03-08-2013 01:26 PM

Foot pedal tuner question
 
Hı I am a new player, I am trying hard to learn to play my fretless. It is unlined so kind of hard to hit the notes spot on, my question is :

Can I use a floor pedal tuner which is fast enough that I can see how far off the note I was while I am playing?

I use my snark tuner but it is too slow, uncool stuck on the headstock and awkward to look at it.

Any recommendations will be most welcome, I only play at home with friends so gigability (is that a word?) is not an issue.

RickenBoogie 03-08-2013 01:40 PM

Not sure if it'll work, but I must say, an unlined fretless is not the best option to learn on. Using your ear is the easiest way toi know if you're playing the notes right.

Technotitclan 03-08-2013 01:43 PM

Most tuners, if not all, will be to slow for that. Lessons would help with unlined frettless. You may also want to try adding lines then remove them when your better/more confident. Use something removable like chalk or stickers.

Gadgetjunky 03-08-2013 02:01 PM

My pitchblack is very fast. I have a Line 6 G50 and it has a separate line out for the tuner so the tuner can be on all the time

bongomania 03-08-2013 02:24 PM

The Turbo Tuner is fast enough, and easy to read.

walterw 03-08-2013 02:28 PM

+1

the turbo is the only one fast enough. you'll need a way to split the signal so the tuner is on while the sound is on too, but it's worth it.

i have turbos on my pedalboards (bass and guitar) set up this way, and i can use the turbo in the middle of songs to visually see how in-tune my guitar string-bends are!

45acp 03-08-2013 02:30 PM

Go to autozone (or other parts store) and get a roll of thin pinstripe.

Suatie 03-08-2013 02:42 PM

I have fretted basses too, but I love the feel and challenge of the fretless. And as I am alone noodling most of the time, missing the notes is not a huge deal, but I want to get better and train my ears.

Turbo Tuner is the way to go then.

Thanks for all the tips.

Suatie 03-08-2013 02:55 PM

I assume we are talking about the ST200. It is $140 at amazon but everybody seem to think it is worth every penny.

In the description it says it mutes when it is on, so I will have to send it a split signal from the bass as suggested above.

Can I connect the bass to the head and use the send of the amp to connect the turbo Tuner without the return?

Suatie 03-08-2013 03:24 PM

İs there any other way to see and visually monitor the notes being played as they are played?
I remember seeing somewhere that Tascam made a recorder of some sort that could also show the notes in music being played, but I can't seem to find any info on it.

mmbongo 03-08-2013 03:38 PM

TC Polytune is 99.5% as fast as the Turbo Tuner and costs about half as much. Plus, it's a polytuner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGC45f9uiQU

http://www.amazon.com/TC-Electronic-...ords=polytuner

Gadgetjunky 03-08-2013 03:45 PM

the best solution is to have IEM's so you can hear yourself well. Looking down at the tuner does not seem pratical

Suatie 03-08-2013 04:15 PM

What are IEMs?

Suatie 03-08-2013 04:16 PM

In Ear Monitor!!!!

Gadgetjunky 03-08-2013 04:29 PM

yep, I have an Electric Upright gig tonight and the IEM in one ear works great. It's really tough to look in 2 directions at once. Hearing is more acurate than eyeing a meter.

Gadgetjunky 03-08-2013 04:34 PM

but a quick turner will help you learn where intonation is set in relation to neck dots-etc at home practicing.

Suatie 03-08-2013 06:09 PM

That is exactly what I am trying to do, to get the innotation dead on, and improve my fingering on the fretless.

I had an email exchange with Turbo Tuner people, and it seems the ST- 122a model might be better for me as it is always on and I can also use it acoustically.

Gadgetjunky 03-08-2013 06:23 PM

sorry, I thought you meant live.

walterw 03-08-2013 11:09 PM

the 122a would indeed let you just run the signal through it, but it won't give you the big letter note name like the 200 will. it's also more suited to bench use and acoustic tuning. (i have a couple of the earlier version, the 122, and they rock just like the pedal version, of which i also have a couple; i won't use anything else, either at work or on the gig)

i think you could indeed use the effects send from your amp, or even just a Y-cable after another buffered pedal (or even right off the bass if it's active) to send a signal to the tuner that's separate from the main signal.

and no way is the polytune anywhere near as fast as the turbo.

Gadgetjunky 03-08-2013 11:27 PM

Why don't more tuners have an 'always on' mode. still mute with switch?


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