Friday evening pedal board questions..

[D.Don]

Hi,

I have just made room for micro pog and mxr dist+ on my board, and after 2 hours of puzzling to get them to all fit in (which will blow in 2 weeks when I get a soul preacher, but frakk that for now..).

Any reason to why I would not put the micro pog after chorus and phaser?

My thought of signal chain here is:

IN --> MXR Dist+ --> Ibanez Tuner --> Bass Balls --> Cool Cat --> Belcat Phaser --> Micro Pog --> Bass Exciter --> Punch Factory --> Sansamp Acoustic DI --> Sonic Stomp --> OUT

MXR Dist+ is modified so its more or less a drive instead that gives me a dirty saturated sound, and I use it more or less all the time.

What you dont see is the Gator G-bus, it sits under the tuner.


Comments?

Of course I will test this (tomorrow) first to see that there's no obivous flaws with it, but as usual on this forum, it's always great to have you guys give some input as well.



(photo sucks, iSight webcam ten in the evening)

Thanks!

D.Don

[kevteop]

I think the tracking on the Micro POG will suffer if it's after chorus/phase/distortion, etc. I always stick octave effects first just so they get the cleanest signal.

[D.Don]

Originally Posted by kevteop

I think the tracking on the Micro POG will suffer if it's after chorus/phase/distortion, etc. I always stick octave effects first just so they get the cleanest signal.

Hmm, that's an interesting one, I was thinking that the low ends on a sub octave pog maybe would not do so good on the chorus and phaser, will have to test that tomorrow.

Thanks!

D.Don

[RickenBoogie]

If it works for you, that's it. But, I agree with Kevteop on the tracking issue. My octave is down the line a ways, but before any modulation. I do have a couple of filters in front of it, and all my overdrives, but no swishy swirly stuff. See how it sounds to you, we all change up our boards quite frequently anyway.

[D.Don]

Will indeed do, just sitting here and experimenting, gotta go eating now though, will be back with a report probably tomorrow.

Thanks dudes!

D.Don

[BigNoise]

I would take off those Aphex pedals, and sell them to me really cheap or better yet make a donation.......thanks in advance

[LowBSix]

IMHO: I'd lose most of the stuff and minimalize. That's just me... I rarely use effects and that's why I'm selling my board and chorus and pedal tuner about all that's left...

Let the Bass shine through...

[D.Don]

Originally Posted by LowBSix

IMHO: I'd lose most of the stuff and minimalize. That's just me... I rarely use effects and that's why I'm selling my board and chorus and pedal tuner about all that's left...

Let the Bass shine through...

If I one day feel that the tone direct to the amp, is so much greater without the pedals, even turned off, I will most probably get me some kind of loop-front end instead. I like being able to tweak and play with the sound when needed, versifying has always been a must as a keyboard player, so that's still in me, and I am a curios soul that like to play around and see what things lead to ..



D.Don

[D.Don]

Originally Posted by BigNoise

I would take off those Aphex pedals, and sell them to me really cheap or better yet make a donation.......thanks in advance

The Aphex twins there where the first peds I got, totally recommend them, had to sell lots of old junk to get the budget to get this board together, but it sure is fun!

D.Don

[LowBSix]

Originally Posted by D.Don

If I one day feel that the tone direct to the amp, is so much greater without the pedals, even turned off, I will most probably get me some kind of loop-front end instead. I like being able to tweak and play with the sound when needed, versifying has always been a must as a keyboard player, so that's still in me, and I am a curios soul that like to play around and see what things lead to ..



D.Don

I hear ya! That's why I play active basses, cuz the sound control is at your fingertips...

Keep on playin' .... That's all that really matters!!!

[D.Don]

Originally Posted by LowBSix

I hear ya! That's why I play active basses, cuz the sound control is at your fingertips...

Keep on playin' .... That's all that really matters!!!

Yup, playin is the ****, tomorrow I am gonna record something just for the hell of it, with my new (old used) Ibanez bass.

Cheers!

D.Don

[JanusZarate]

Hmm...

Don: If it were my board, I'd ditch the bulk of your processors/enhancers, if not all of them.

Maybe it's just me, but when half of your pedals are "processors" of various sorts on your clean sound... something seems terribly wrong with the bass/amp being used. You shouldn't really need all of that.

Anyhow... going back to your original question... given that it's the Micro POG, I doubt tracking is going to take a noticeable hit. But if you're trying to get an organ sound, it might sound better and more "spacious" with the ambient effects after the POG.

The only true "issue" I see is the resulting sound. You might like it better this way, but I prefer it another way.

[LowBSix]

Originally Posted by MysticBoo

Hmm...

Don: If it were my board, I'd ditch the bulk of your processors/enhancers, if not all of them.

Maybe it's just me, but when half of your pedals are "processors" of various sorts on your clean sound... something seems terribly wrong with the bass/amp being used. You shouldn't really need all of that.

Anyhow... going back to your original question... given that it's the Micro POG, I doubt tracking is going to take a noticeable hit. But if you're trying to get an organ sound, it might sound better and more "spacious" with the ambient effects after the POG.

The only true "issue" I see is the resulting sound. You might like it better this way, but I prefer it another way.

+1 all the way...

[D.Don]

I am not a live player, and rarely use the lil amp I have for more than practice. I like to be able to "process" a decent sound for the recordings I do, and then poke it in a DI and tape it down in the puter without using any amp software (I sometime use a software speaker emulator).



EDIT: When I play thru the amp, I sometimes use an ART Levelar only with a nice tube I bought upon a tips on a forum that makes the levelar produce higher gain and less noise, just to play around with compression when I feel I need that.


D.Don

[JanusZarate]

Originally Posted by D.Don

I am not a live player, and rarely use the lil amp I have for more than practice. I like to be able to "process" a decent sound for the recordings I do, and then poke it in a DI and tape it down in the puter without using any amp software (I sometime use a software speaker emulator).



D.Don

Ah... makes sense.

You could probably still do just as well with one less processor.

[D.Don]

Originally Posted by MysticBoo

Ah... makes sense.

You could probably still do just as well with one less processor.

I like the low end in the Bass Exciter, but sometimes when I don't use it, I still want the "smoothness" given by an enhancer, hence the Sonic Stomp...



D.Don.

[dannybuoy]

I went a similar way to you, and had an EBS multicomp and Aphex Xciter on my board. I got so used to them, when I played without them I was amazed how much better I sounded without them so sold them on. Now I'm using the money to buy CRAZY pedals instead!

[D.Don]

Originally Posted by dannybuoy

I went a similar way to you, and had an EBS multicomp and Aphex Xciter on my board. I got so used to them, when I played without them I was amazed how much better I sounded without them so sold them on. Now I'm using the money to buy CRAZY pedals instead!

hehe, crazy pedals sounds interesting, what's the "most crazy" pedal you can come up with?

The bassballs here is modded, the "tweak/trim" pots on the inside has been replaced by two external pots where you can tweak direct instead, and the Dist+ we replaced the volume pot to a - 0 + instead, and the diodes are changed from germanium to LED to make it more "amp overdrive" that can be used on "clean" sounds as saturation, and the dist pot we changed to a logarithmic one, so it goes ketchup, pretty much after 80-90 percent things are getting lot'a more rough... hehe.

As long as I can achieve what I want when recording with the peds I choose, I am ok as it is, but since it looks like I will have to get a bigger board soon, I might look into those loop frontends as well, (have a soul preacher comin up in a week or two or so).

:P

D.Don

[dannybuoy]

I've got my eyes set on an Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai, a Boss PS-3 and a Robot Factory Photron Filter. That will help me get some crazy post-rock ambient noise going on!

[D.Don]

Yeah that seems to be quite effect-ive pedals those!



D.Don