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Old 08-05-2008, 09:04 PM
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I'm looking for a fuzz pedal that doesn't get buzzy or brittle AT ALL. I'm looking for thick ass non-buzz fuzz tone. Anyone got any ideas?

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Old 08-05-2008, 09:06 PM
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I'm looking for a fuzz pedal that doesn't get buzzy or brittle AT ALL. Also needs to have a clean blend. The Blowtorch comes close, but it's a little buzzy. I know there have been threads listing the fuzz pedals with blends. But I need a little more specific list. Anyone got any ideas?
Hm, by buzzy do you mean like really noisy? Like a lot a lot of noise with the gain up?
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:15 PM
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Hm, by buzzy do you mean like really noisy? Like a lot a lot of noise with the gain up?
No, noise isn't a big deal, but minimal is nice. I'm talking about buzzy as in a buzzy tone. You know what I'm talking about? I suck at describing things.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:28 PM
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:34 PM
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I'm looking for a fuzz pedal that doesn't get buzzy or brittle AT ALL. Also needs to have a clean blend. The Blowtorch comes close, but it's a little buzzy. I know there have been threads listing the fuzz pedals with blends. But I need a little more specific list. Anyone got any ideas?
Hmm, I don't like buzzy fuzzes either but then I was surprised to hear you say that the Blowtorch comes close to what you want. I would rank that among the "buzziest" fuzzes I've ever played which is why I didn't like it and I'm sure why others do.

Still, if you are thinking of the same kind of fuzz that I am, here are some options off the top of my head.

The Assmaster has a clean blend and is a great pedal but again a bit on the buzzy side rather than the warm, thick side that I wanted. I think a blended Big Muff would be a good way to go so perhaps the Wren & Cuff Pickle Pie B would be up your alley, though I've only heard sound clips.

The Chunk Brown Dog can be buzzy but it has a pretty wide range of tones and a really good clean blend.

Lastly, the Prescription Depth Charge may well be worth checking out. That's all I can think of for now.
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If so, I've been on a search for the same thing. Color me interested.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:43 PM
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Hmm, I don't like buzzy fuzzes either but then I was surprised to hear you say that the Blowtorch comes close to what you want. I would rank that among the "buzziest" fuzzes I've ever played which is why I didn't like it and I'm sure why others do.

Still, if you are thinking of the same kind of fuzz that I am, here are some options off the top of my head.

The Assmaster has a clean blend and is a great pedal but again a bit on the buzzy side rather than the warm, thick side that I wanted. I think a blended Big Muff would be a good way to go so perhaps the Wren & Cuff Pickle Pie B would be up your alley, though I've only heard sound clips.

The Chunk Brown Dog can be buzzy but it has a pretty wide range of tones and a really good clean blend.

Lastly, the Prescription Depth Charge may well be worth checking out. That's all I can think of for now.
Well, I think the reason the Blowtorch almost worked for me because I keep my bass tone knob pretty low and I had the highs cut and the mids and lows boosted when I had one. It wasn't that buzzy. Just a little.

I think a Big Muff that only fuzzes the mids and lows and leaves the highs clean would be perfect. I had that idea a while ago and made a thread about it. I need a frequency crossover and a 3 channel mixer to get it all working. I'd love to have it all custom made into a big ass enclosure. 1790 or 1690 perhaps.

From the samples of the Depth Charge that I've heard, that's about the buzziest fuzz I've ever heard.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:48 PM
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My old green sovtek muff isn't buzzy. Its a good solid fuzz with plenty of low end
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The EHX Bass Big Muff has a clean/fuzz mix. When it's in that mode, you can use the volume to dial in the amount of clean or fuzz. It's pretty darn versatile.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:54 PM
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The EHX Bass Big Muff has a clean/fuzz mix. When it's in that mode, you can use the volume to dial in the amount of clean or fuzz. It's pretty darn versatile.
I watched grygrxs review a couple days ago, not impressed.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:56 PM
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From the samples of the Depth Charge that I've heard, that's about the buzziest fuzz I've ever heard.
Again, we all hear things differently. Even with the clean blend, neither the Depth Charge nor the Assmaster were for me (both are Brassmaster clones I believe) as they were both too buzzy but again I was thrown by the idea that the Blowtorch was close to what you wanted. Honestly, I don't know if it is my gear or what but for the month I had the MXR I got nothing but angry bees on every setting except when it was almost completely clean tone.

Personally, my favorite dirt boxes at the moment are the Blueberry for OD and the Frantone Bassweet for fuzz. I also like the XXLB run into a Sansamp for really crunchy distortion. The BBBOD is the only one on my board, but all are nice and thick without any buzzing. Then again, none of them have a clean blend except the SansAmp and I don't use the blend on it.

To be honest, I haven't personally played a fuzz that was thick and non-buzzy AND had a clean blend. Your best bet might be to find a fuzz you like and get a blender.

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Old 08-05-2008, 10:12 PM
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To be honest, I haven't personally played a fuzz that was thick and non-buzzy AND had a clean blend. Your best bet might be to find a fuzz you like and get a blender.
What have you found that's thick and non-buzzy? I can have a clean blend added.
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:19 PM
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To be honest, I haven't personally played a fuzz that was thick and non-buzzy AND had a clean blend. Your best bet might be to find a fuzz you like and get a blender.
What have you found that's thick and non-buzzy? I can have a clean blend added.
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I watched grygrxs review a couple days ago, not impressed.
To be perfectly honest, none of the clips of this pedal impressed me. It did impress me when it counted, though. Try before you fly, you might like it.
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:29 PM
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Well, the Bassweet is at the top of that list. It can very easily get very harsh sounding, but not thin or buzzy. It is deep and thick.

Quite a few Muff clones would probably fit the bill. For a while I had a bass modded NYC Big Muff that I dug a lot. Blended it gave me the slightly bassier version of Robert Sledge's tone that I wanted at the time. That's why I thought the Pickle Pie B might be worth checking out.

If we're talking thick bass fuzz, I'd be remiss not to mention the Wooly Mammoth. I didn't really care for it (plus I play all active basses anyway) but it's plenty thick.
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The Assmaster has a clean blend and is a great pedal but again a bit on the buzzy side rather than the warm, thick side that I wanted
The germ version is MUCH smoother than the silicon

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Lastly, the Prescription Depth Charge may well be worth checking out. That's all I can think of for now.
If you live in a world of tweeters or hi-fi output this pedal sounds like a live swarm of bees is living in the background.
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The germ version is MUCH smoother than the silicon
+1 Im yet to compare against a Silicon one, but from the clips I've heard, my Germ one is much more mellow. I wouldn't say it was particularly 'buzzy' sounding.
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+1 for Sovtek Muffs, they can be super smooth.

If you can find one, I think a DOD Bass Grunge is perfect. Can do an excellent Muff imitation, but separates high & low distortion and has a clean blend. Then again, I think it's pretty much always the perfect fuzz.
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The germ version is MUCH smoother than the silicon

If you live in a world of tweeters or hi-fi output this pedal sounds like a live swarm of bees is living in the background.
Hmm, I should have mentioned that I haven't played a Depth Charge myself. I just figured it would be similar to the Assmaster since they are modeled on the same original. I was looking for something slightly darker than the Blowtorch per the OP's description. Well, at least I know that I don't need to bother checking it out for myself.

I've wanted to check out the Germanium Assmaster, but since it's also an octave up fuzz I just don't see it being dark enough for my tastes. Shame too, because there's a lot of things I dig about Malekko as a company.
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my vote would go for a Pickle Pie B - the only fuzz you will ever need IMHO
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