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10-11-2010, 08:37 AM
|  | Mostly french, not really fried | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere near Montreal, CA | | | A Gene Simmons question... huh ???
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OK, something new ! Haven't seen a lot (if any) Gene questions here, so I didn't even bother to search.
The guys and I are probably going to cover "I was made for loving you (doo doo doo doo, whatever....) and I must admit, Gene came up with an infectious bassline (provided he actually came up with it and played it, of course).
Question: Is it me or is there some kind of effect in there... delay ? Reverb ? Blend of both ? Or I am fooled by the sequencer ?
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10-11-2010, 08:50 AM
|  | Holding the Line, Low, Loud & Proud | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leander, TX (outside Austin) | | | Perhaps something done by the producer, engineer or mixer but Gene is not known for using effects, he probably hates them. |
10-11-2010, 08:56 AM
| | Mostly french, not really fried | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere near Montreal, CA | | | Most probably done by the producer, I agree. I read somewhere that Gene is also not known for playing much bass in the studio after Alive II.
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10-11-2010, 10:47 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, California | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bassmike62  Most probably done by the producer, I agree. I read somewhere that Gene is also not known for playing much bass in the studio after Alive II. | +1 I was just thinking "that bass line sounds like a studio guy" - though I realize they still play that song live sometimes |
10-11-2010, 12:19 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London, England | | | I caught kiss live at Wembley Arena a few months ago - Gene did have a pretty distorted tone, and on his 'solo' there was so much delay that im not totally sure if some of it wasnt pre-recorded bass loops - it wasnt any sort of musical solo, it seemed pretty much just gene getting noisy whilst her gets hoisted into the rafters spitting blood.
I'm not a kiss fan by any stretch of the imagination, but they put on a hell of an entertaining show
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10-11-2010, 12:24 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Tampa | | | was it really Gene & the boys, or just some guys who stayed at Holiday Inn Express? |
10-11-2010, 12:25 PM
| | | | I'm pretty sure Paul Stanley wrote and even played the bass part to "I Was Made For Lovin' You". I know he would from time to time, ie "Love Gun", and many times they are really creative basslines. A lot of times they would record at different times and both would do guitars and bass on their own tracks. Gene played guitars on his solo album cause he wanted a different take on the tracks from his own style. |
10-11-2010, 12:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texas | | | Read somewhere years ago that Paul Stanley played bass on the original recording on Dynasty.... |
10-11-2010, 12:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texas | | | Greevus and I were thinking alike.. |
10-11-2010, 12:29 PM
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10-11-2010, 12:39 PM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London, England | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tampabass was it really Gene & the boys, or just some guys who stayed at Holiday Inn Express? | I got those b*tches up close - no amount of make up could hide that many wrinkles. Real Deal, although TBH they might as well have phoned it in for the amount of scripted dialog that was going on, not that I blame them really, I mean how much is there to say other than:
'Heyyyyyyyyyyyy, its great to be back here in {insert city name}, we were just in [insert another rival city name]....'
*cue audience boos*
'....and they werent half as loud as you'
*cue audience applause, then cue a song about sex/rock and roll [delete as appropriate]*
The cheese was flowing that night -especially the video screen montage of musical greats (beatles, led zep, janis joplin) whilst they were singing 'god gave rock and roll to you'
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Originally Posted by behndy "big and awkwardly powered". sounds like ALL EHX gear. or my junk. | |
10-11-2010, 03:21 PM
| | Mostly french, not really fried | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere near Montreal, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by RCCollins +1 I was just thinking "that bass line sounds like a studio guy" - though I realize they still play that song live sometimes | Just Youtube it live for kicks. His performances on the tune are uneven, at best. Saw one (late 90's, me thinks) where he plays the line in a sort of staccato.... absolutely awful. But he's still my favorite, actually started thinking bass was a cool rock instrument after hearing the Hard Luck Woman bassline, for God knows what reason.
And is public persona... deliciously obnoxious. 
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10-11-2010, 03:22 PM
| | Mostly french, not really fried | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere near Montreal, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tampabass was it really Gene & the boys, or just some guys who stayed at Holiday Inn Express? | Pretty sure the boys are in, as for Gene... who knows, right ?
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10-11-2010, 03:27 PM
| | Mostly french, not really fried | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere near Montreal, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by DosiYanarchy no amount of make up could hide that many wrinkles. | There's a 2010 Clip on youtooob, where you see the wrinkles... but also the fact that Mr. Witz and Mr. Eisen are not getting any thinner either !
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10-11-2010, 03:33 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Seattle, WA | | | Nah, its a pretty straight ahead bass tone. the delay sound is coming from that Chuka chuka chuka of one of the rhythm guitar tracks. |
10-11-2010, 03:58 PM
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10-11-2010, 04:05 PM
| | Mostly french, not really fried | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere near Montreal, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by morganmcd If he used effects ever, he would have his own model by now so he could sell it. | Good point.
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10-11-2010, 04:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Warwick RI | | | I just youtubed the song out of curiosity, never really checked that bassline before and i am an old school kiss fan. Saw a few people doing play alongs and it is a pretty cool
70's type of disco bassline using octaves and some 4th's(i think). After the drum break the order of instuments would be: Guitar,bass, then guitar solo. thats where you can really hear the bassline.
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10-11-2010, 05:46 PM
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10-11-2010, 06:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hermitage, PA | | Gene does not use effects, he doesn't like them. He does not use backing tracks live.
The only songs he did not play bass on from the beginning to 1979 were Parasite, Love Gun, his solo album (he said it would have been too easy to just play bass), and IWMFLY. Obviously it wasn't because he could not play them, but because Parasite was written completely by Ace so he requested to play bass on it, and Love GUn was already written(including the bassline) when Paul brought it to the band, and IWMFLY was alaso written by Paul.
Here's the isolated IWMFLY bass from their new greatest hits ablum. This was played by Gene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZGuT8WJKZg
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