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Old 10-11-2007, 01:49 AM
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General Battery Clips, Daisy Chains and power supplies question

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So as we all know there is no problem sticking a battery clip on a daisy chain and powering say 4 pedals via the standard boss plug and one using a battery clip ok. Problem arises when you use 2 battery clips on the same daisy chain into the same pedal say it is 18v so the solution to this is get another power supply or get something isolated like the Voodoo Labs.

What has never been made clear is that if you have 2 power supplies can you daisy chain off both of them say you have 9 pedals 1 is 18v so you are using 1 output from 2 power supplies daisy chains to power that and then using 4 on each power supply to power the other pedals.

Hopefully this makes sense as I'm trying to find a good way to power my Mutron clone.

Or I recently saw this



Easy to access battery compartment that just links via battery snaps to the pedal.

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Old 10-11-2007, 02:01 AM
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Pikey, you made my head hurt. Try explaining again but slower this time.

In other news, I bought a '69 P bass
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:05 AM
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This info would be greatly appreciated!

For anyone struggling with the concept, I drew up a little diagram.



So, would it be possible to connect a battery snap to the mutron (or pedal that needs similar power) on the same daisy chain that is powering OTHER pedals?
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:06 AM
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Pikey, you made my head hurt. Try explaining again but slower this time.

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Yeah Higgie's drawn you a picture with some crayons

Congrats on the bass I'll swap you for one very shiny button, some fluff I found under my bed and a half eaten mars bar.

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assuming the mu-tron uses two 9v batteries, yes. i did it with my db924 preamp
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Yup it runs on two 9v batteries, although it doesn't add up to 18v, it needs +9 and -9v.

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+9v.. -9v... 0v what? This is way over my head. You might have to buy another adapter to reverse the polarity. But I wouldn't know... at least you got your answer!
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:57 AM
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I'm gonna order 2 of those Shredfreak adaptors I showed you Higgie and see if that works but I like the idea of building an external battery box into a pedalboard shelf or something similar
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+9v.. -9v... 0v what? This is way over my head. You might have to buy another adapter to reverse the polarity. But I wouldn't know... at least you got your answer!
Yeah, it takes positive 9v from one battery, and negative 9v from the other, I think...

You'd be able to daisy chain off the one that gives out +9v I would have thought..

Yeah good idea TaySte, let me know how it works.
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If'n with the -9 and +9 posts you folks mean the physical polarity of the connectors then it is just a matter of switching the wires of the daisy chain connector whose polarity you want changed with a wirestripper and some electrical tape.
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Nice.
Never saw such a thing in a pedalboard.
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Be careful of your grounds! ±9V only has one ground point - 0V. When you connect two batteries you are joining the negative of one battery, and the positive of the other, and this junction is the ground point.

If you then intend to daisy chain to other pedals, you must ensure that you don't inadvertently create a second ground point. If you do have two grounds, when you connect signal cables between two pedals on different grounds you will short circuit the two grounds, shorting one of the batteries and everything will stop working.

This arrangement is good for when you have a mixture of positive ground and negative ground pedals. But, positive and negative grounds are not indicated by connector polarity alone - so be careful when you're experimenting!
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what is this mutron clone you speak of?
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