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11-10-2012, 08:07 PM
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Howdy,
Im a big Kiss fan & picked up the lastest cd Monster.
After hearing the Growl Gene`s getting now its maddnes i really want to try & get this sound.
Im wondering if anybody would know what he uses to get this kind of sound ?
I know he uses Ampeg amps but who knows what he uses when recording these albums.Ive heard the same sound when he is on stage too.
A couple people said his sound hasnt changed but i can really hear it.Sounds like he now uses the bridge pickup also.Im sure he never use to but theres no way he could get that much mid growl with just the neck pickup.
When i try to get this bottom end growl through my Sansamps the sound is distorted more on the top end rather then the bottom,where i think for Gene its the other way round.
Anybody know what he uses in his set-up or how to get a sound thats close to it ? |
11-10-2012, 08:21 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northwest of Montreal, CAN | | | It might not be Gene who is playing bass in the studio, even if he is credited for it. I've read a few times over the years that he hasn't played in studio for a long time. So I guess that trying to identify the players and their gear would be a logical move.
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11-10-2012, 08:26 PM
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11-10-2012, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassmike62  It might not be Gene who is playing bass in the studio, even if he is credited for it. I've read a few times over the years that he hasn't played in studio for a long time. So I guess that trying to identify the players and their gear would be a logical move. | in the past, yes, but monster and sonic boom are just straight up band albums. no extra people, no outside writers. they pretty much at this point have dropped the secrecy of who did or didnt play what on all the albums. theres no reason to think that they would be lying about monster at this point. |
11-10-2012, 08:36 PM
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11-10-2012, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vegas532 Sounds like a return to the Ripper, first off, but definitely just an Ampeg. | He used the Ripper on Sonic Boom, so I'd imagine he used it on Monster as well.
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11-10-2012, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Savage_Dreams in the past, yes, but monster and sonic boom are just straight up band albums. no extra people, no outside writers. they pretty much at this point have dropped the secrecy of who did or didnt play what on all the albums. theres no reason to think that they would be lying about monster at this point. | True theres footage of all of them on YT recording Sonic Boom.
Gene is using a Gibson but it aint a Grabber.Then another clip where he uses the Punisher while recording that is.
What really gets me is the sound not the player.The Growling thats going on is just in your face.He never had this sound before except for Sonic Boom.
Does somebody have an idea of the chain of equipment he uses ?
How to get the bass to distort or Growl on the bottom-end rather then the top-end ? |
11-10-2012, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by VitalSigns He used the Ripper on Sonic Boom, so I'd imagine he used it on Monster as well. | I know that his bass has to do with the Growl but it cant be all it comes down to can it ?
Ampeg amp Ripper bass & what else ?
Theres massive amounts of i can only call Growl on Sonic Boom & Monster,its a very nice tone ! |
11-10-2012, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Growly Lytes I know that his bass has to do with the Growl but it cant be all it comes down to can it ?
Ampeg amp Ripper bass & what else ?
Theres massive amounts of i can only call Growl on Sonic Boom & Monster,its a very nice tone ! | Rippers have a very aggressive tone to them, especially with fresh bright strings! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdo1S...eature=related
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11-11-2012, 01:05 AM
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11-11-2012, 05:49 AM
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This threads mentions he's dirt and delay. SansAmp is mentionned for dirt. "Gene Simmons" effect
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11-13-2012, 11:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Belleville,New Jersey USA | | | Gibson Ripper has as mention a very aggressive tone and the Ripper Ampeg combo which I had used for years myself growls like no other! In my hey day I was punching my Ripper through 2 ampeg Svt heads out to 3 8/10 cabs talk about growling!
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11-13-2012, 11:12 AM
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Also the GS Punisher II bass has a very aggressive tone.
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11-13-2012, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NOT To get a real Gene sort of growl, you'd want to use a Grabber. I can completely rip off his tone off of Alive! with my Gibby Grabber and Gallien Krueger MBE-III.
Also the GS Punisher II bass has a very aggressive tone. | Yep it is.Even the Cort Punisher has an in your face tone coming out of the lower regions.
Im pretty shocked by those MM pickups it has full`on mids this bass puts out.I quess its all in the bass & preamp & also how you play the thing.The harder you play the more growl that comes out.
Im happy he uses Sansamps cause thats what ive got RBI/RPM & the Cort Punisher.
I ran one cab clean & one dirty last nite & it was great never have done that before,im quessing he does something like that too.
Thanks guys. |
11-13-2012, 04:33 PM
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11-13-2012, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by andvari7 Now, all we need is for Gene to play songs from The Elder live... | Ha, i dont think he knows any of them apart from the most easy song on there,
World Without Heroes.
Also i just went looking on YT & noticed the Big Muff.
This seems to really sound like what he uses.Is it possible that he is using a Big Muff pedal ?
Cause it sounds alot different then a Sansamp !
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